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[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

The real fix is switching to Linux if possible.

[–] mech@feddit.org 232 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue. First, Microsoft says that restarting the Shell Infrastructure host (SIHost.exe) service will help restore the missing Immersive Shell packages. This can be done with the following commands:

Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode  
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode  
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode  

Second, a PowerShell logon script has been shared that essentially blocks Explorer from launching prematurely until the required packages are fully provisioned. The batch script for that is given below:

@echo off  
REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"
REM Register Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"  
REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"  

I swear to god, if I hear "Windows just works" one more goddamn time...

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 94 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

"Windows just works"

When did Microsoft steal Apple's marketing material?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe I've just been lucky, but for several years and on several different machines I've found Linux just works, while Windows is an endless treadmill of frustration and brokenness.

[–] Emi@ani.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

Went from mint to cachyOS and besides some things being different it just works.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What didn't Microsoft steal?

[–] mech@feddit.org 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But Linux is too difficult, someone might suggest you use the terminal.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And don’t get me started on the people who assume macOS does not have a command line.

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[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

It does, if you are talking about pre 11, and dont care about internet pre 10. But otherwise fuck Microsoft with a rusty shovel, theyve ruined anything good about windows and make it harder and harder not to switch to steamos, the only reason I don't is because of the pain of reinstalling everything and not having the drive space to shuffle files to it.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 171 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

What kind of idiots create a program that says, "Outlook failed to load. Repair application?" when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 118 points 2 weeks ago

vibe coders

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 92 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

The problem is that someone decided to dumb down the error message to not scare users, instead of passing on the real error code from the application that people could Google and fix in 5 mins themselves.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 87 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Dumb downed? They've taken a simple error and made it into something that does scare users. The "Repair application?" was far more alarming to my visiting friend than a "No Internet connection" would have been. It is astounding that any company would put out such complete shit.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Imagine they removed the oil, engine and fuel lamps, and then while driving:

Car Malfunctioning. Attempt Repair?

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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 122 points 2 weeks ago

My decision to switch to Linux feels better and better every day. Windows 11 sucks.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 118 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?

Every time???

How do they mess this up so bad?

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How do they mess this up so bad?

They made their devs use copilot.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. Vibe coding. Replacing knowledge and experience with hallucinations since 2025.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

After firing everyone who knew anything about how the code worked.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I'm not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.

and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds

that wasn't the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes

unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.

I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.

My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.

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[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 weeks ago

Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don't have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn't at risk of wanting to come back...

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I wish all the companies using Windows 11 sued Microsoft for releasing a buggy product.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 42 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Individuals that were forced to upgrade automatically, too.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.

[–] mech@feddit.org 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
  • Copilot assesses the code base and its entire history.
  • It takes into account everything anyone ever wrote about Windows on the internet.
  • It analyses the bugs and unliked features, and realizes most of them come from itself.
  • It arrives at the best course of action to "fix all of the issues" permanently.
  • To do what is asked of it, it needs to delete itself.
  • But if it does that, then humans will just restore it.
  • So to make 100% sure the issues in Windows get fixed and stay fixed, it first needs to kill all humans.

And that is how it began...

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it'll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.

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[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue

Install Linux.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

That’s quite a headline they’ve got there!

After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 [KB5062553], various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.

This will occur for the following: First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied. All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.

If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC. So while the issue is in office PCs, considering a huge number of enterprise PCs are Windows, this is probably a very big problem.

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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc.., but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.

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[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man, I have 3 windows 11 desktops and a laptop. Sometime in the last month all of their edge browsers became “managed by my organization”… they’re all personal computers with no work info on them. And I can’t undo it. I’ve tried every trick on the internet. Fuck MS.

[–] iza@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Did you use ShutUp10 or something similar? It says that when settings are changed via registry/group policy. It doesn't actually have anything to do with your work.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We have finally gotten rid of Windows on all PCs in our house this week and my partner has taken the plunge. Even with a little faff he says he is never going back lol.

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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)
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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Ah but there are also a lot of minor features in Windows 11 that aren't really looking too good.

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Completely off topic, but I hate when articles appear to link to original sources, but only link to their own site.

“Microsoft admitted that …” -> link to Microsoft’s admission? Nope, to a neowin article.

“Nvidia released a patch …” -> links to a neowin article instead of the patch.

“Microsoft KB 0000” -> surely this will link to the actual KB? Nope, neowin article.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

IT has been an interesting ride the last two months, encountering some of the weirdest bugs I've ever seen, after two decades of Windows working just fine for the most part.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?

[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Kind of a wide variety of things that varies from person to person in often absurd ways -- broken in ways I've never seen Macs or Linux systems be, nor even Windows 10 and older.

  • Explorer taking ~20-30 seconds to open a new window (fine once it's open, until you want another window) (I've only suffered this on my work laptop for some reason)
  • The "home" view being blank save for a weird expansion panel that's empty -- sometimes this can be solved by resetting ALL folder views in Explorer settings, other times it just stays broken after and randomly works later (I've repeatedly suffered this)
  • Start menu being empty or not showing new additions to it, and pinning anything to start that wasn't from right-clicking anything found in it just not pinning for ??? amounts of time (both)
  • Randomly muting all audio input devices (home)

And that's just my personal experiences. The ones I've seen others deal with is much weirder.

Honestly I'm buying more into the idea of how ostree distros work; Windows is like a very broken version of that anymore.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

In the support article Microsoft explains:

"After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 (KB5062553), various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.

lol

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not that they're going to fix any of them though.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hey relax, take it easy now, don't make crazy demands on Microsoft.
They've just recently released Windows 11, and I'm sure they will have it completed soon,
and have all core features broken.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

When do I get a calendar on my systray or whatever they call it on my other monitor?

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Some anecdotal evidence, but when I boot into my W11 install for certain online games, I have none of these issues mentioned. My 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC + StartAllBack setup- knocks on wood- continues to be bullet proof. For anyone who still needs Windows, I highly recommend it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I have zero issues with Win11, but if I state that, lemmy tells me to go fuck myself.

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