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UK's Turing AI Institute responds to staff anger about defence focus (www.bbc.com)

submitted 5 days ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That's a bit weird to complain about, since Turing worked for the UK defense, and cracked the Enigma, and was a significant factor to the success of D day.

We are committed to conducting our business with honesty, integrity and transparency and believe that a culture of openness and accountability is essential

Obviously the transparency part goes out the window when working on government defense money.

We (Europe, NATO and allies) have been undermined by Russia and industries spied on by China for decades now, and it should be considered an honor to be called on to help defend UK against it.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That’s a bit weird to complain about, since Turing worked for the UK defense, and cracked the Enigma, and was a significant factor to the success of D day.

Yeah but he actually, you know, signed up directly to the military. These people signed up to a civilian charity.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I imagine Turing probably stopped being patriotic and willing to support the UK military after they, you know, forcibly chemically castrated him for being gay.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes UK murdered their greatest war hero, utterly destroying him and driving him to suicide by insane inhumane treatment based on superstition. But despite the awful treatment of him, he remained faithful to the system.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you support UK military infrastructure being used secretly to aide Israel's 'war' in Gaza? Would you be happy contributing to that system?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Would you shit in a policemans helmet?

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, I see, you're just a troll. And here was me thinking you might just be uninformed.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I just show you how easy it is to ask stupid whataboutism questions.
If you have a point, you could make it, instead of asking stupid questions.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My point is that you seem to believe the people working for the organisation should be happy to work for the military and you seemed to be unable to comprehend why they could be unhappy. I was trying to give you some perspective but that seems to have gone right over your head.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your "perspective" may have been well meant, but to me it reeked of parroting Russian propaganda.
Also I get that people used to not want to work for the military. Peace in our time and all that. What civilized person wouldn't want that?
But for me that changed when Russia invaded Ukraine again. We cannot afford to just stand by while Russia has their way, and China is waiting in the back to see how it goes.
Europe needs to be able to defend itself against aggressors I too thought were a thing of the past. And Europe is working together to achieve that goal.
And people who see the military as some sort of establishment that is the enemy can go fuck themselves IMO.
AND it remains against everything Turing stood for. So maybe they shouldn't work at a place that honors his memory.
But you just go ahead and defend the childishly naive if you want to. But don't expect the least bit of respect from me for tramping all over the memory of Turing, who was an admirable person in every way.