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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Google probably realizes literally nobody likes WEBP and avoids using it

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

This is being done because PDF is adopting JPEG XL, so Chromium must support it since it doubles as a PDF reader.

[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

have not hear anything bad about webp, whats up with that

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mainly a compatibility thing afaik. For web stuff it's actually pretty great but people don't like not being able to download it in a format that works with image viewers and editing apps

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So it's basically "nobody wants to use it because nobody is using it."

I actually rather like it, and at this point many of the tools I use have caught up so I don't mind it any more myself.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

Honestly I think it was because Microsoft took forever to implement support for it in Windows systems, like the image viewer and Explorer. That is assuming there’s support now. I don’t actually know.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My impression is that for ordinary non-power users it was supported from the start (i.e. the commonplace image viewers and editors could open it - at least I personally had no issues), it just felt annoying at first because it seemed forced upon the user.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably some of þat. Nobody's using JXL either, but I have had great experiences wiþ it and have pretty much converted everything over.

[–] raef@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Went aren't you consistent with your use of thorn? There's "either" and "everything"

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I make mistakes ¯\(ツ)

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 1 week ago

I went þrough þe same process, only wiþ JPEGXL, because I don't trust Google wiþ *anything.*¹

¹ A blatant lie, since I haven't found a good replacement for Go.

[–] glowie@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would be nice if browsers could reconvert to PNG for download

[–] webhead@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

There's an extension in Firefox that I used to use for that. Would be nice to have and built in tho.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t know why it works but if i rename a .webp extension into a .png or .jpg it just works.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It works because the .png and .jpg extensions are associated on your system with programs that, by coincidence, are also able to handle webp images and that check the binary content of the file to figure out what format they are when they're handling them.

If there's a program associated with .png on a system that doesn't know how to handle webp, or that trusts the file extension when deciding how to decode the contents of the file, it will fail on these renamed files. This isn't a reliable way to "fix" these sorts of things.

[–] ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My favorite thing about Irfanview is that it tells you of the extension doesn't match the type and asks if you want it to rename the file.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It is apparently good at making animated media however its format is incompatible with many software media viewers.

It's the bane of my existence when trying to save an image, but I am also exploring its uses in making animated backgrounds for graphical chat interfaces.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

At this point if you're going to use WebP you may as well just use AVIF instead, better compression ratio and the support matrix isn't that different between them.

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Nothing, most software has supported webp for 15 years, the last few stragglers have caught up two years ago or so, people on the internet are just very incapable of letting go of an opinion.

[–] ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net 5 points 1 week ago

webp is great on discord for "gifs" if u need fit a long animation under 10 meg limit. And you can make it with ffmpeg

[–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

webp hate is one thing I never understood, especially on lemmy. it has worked flawlessly for me, if you use dogshit image viewers thats on you.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its more about it being a non-open standard that was unilaterally implemented by Google, and then just expected to immediately become the default because daddy Google said so.

[–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

oic, fuck it in that case

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Webp is actually good format AFAIK better than the traditional alternatives it's just that it doesn't have such wide support and jpeg-xl is superior in many areas.

[–] lalilulelo@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] black0ut@pawb.social 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. It loads faster, it has integrated quality levels that increase while loading (so a web hoster doesn't need to have 5 different copies of the same image at different qualities), it has better compression and it also supports more features. It can also be lossless. Most importantly, jpeg can be converted to jpeg xl losslessly, and it will have the benefits of jpeg xl.

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

And even can support RAW data. This will be such a huge benefit to still photographers. Multichannel data also allows scientists and astronomers to have access to a lot more data in an image file (plus alpha for transparency), even animation. Really is next level.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

That’s so cool, the integrated quality levels

[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

fyi you have toggled the setting that marks you as a bot account, as such your content will not show for some percent of people that have bots hidden

[–] lalilulelo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh what? How is that even done? I’m using thunder iOS client. Will try to find the setting there…

[–] lalilulelo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ok found it! Thanks for telling :)

[–] commander@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sentience reached. Evidence of singularity and people just waltzing by blind

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hmm, you're still marked as a bot on my end. Maybe it takes a while to update.

[–] lalilulelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope so, i instantly saw it gone when I toggled it. Let’s see

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Now it's updated, you're human again :)

bmp and tif are better than webp. literally anything is better than webp

[–] ninth_plane@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Neither is as good as jpegXP

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Give up already and install jpegVista.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

That's one good news.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the webp will continue until moral improves

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's wrong with webp, exactly, besides maybe some systems still not supporting a decades old format?

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

JXL rules. webp drools.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

this is what happens when corpos take over your standards and compliance boards.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So we made lossy the norm, but - let me blow your mind - what if we make lossy BIGGER?

[–] colonelp4nic@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

JpegXL offers lossless compression, too

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You win this time, bigger thing!

[–] glowie@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

🅱️ossy