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"Imagine losing internet access because someone in your household downloaded pirated music."

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[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago

The ruling could determine whether access to the internet—today’s lifeline for education, work, and civic life—can be taken away as punishment for digital misdeeds

And this is how we get a CCP Digital Firewall. Combine this with the Flock cameras, Ring doorbells, and years of data networks collecting information on us for advertising, and I do not see this going well at all.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

accused of repeat copyright infringements

Does this court determine whether this concrete accusation against a person holds as well, or does this court determine whether an accusation is enough?

[–] RegularJoe@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

They will let A.I. resolves disputes, just like YouTube does.

/s

or is it /s?

[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Hold your forearm out so I can compare it to this color palette. We'll go from there. /s

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

americans sure are getting a hell of a time

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 days ago

Sadly, a lot of the internet is hosted in America, so anything that fucks them will fuck us

[–] dan@upvote.au 168 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Should the USPS/AusPost/your local postal service be allowed to cut off a household's postal service because someone received pirated CDs in the mail? That's essentially the same thing. If anything, internet access is more important than mail these days.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A private business keeps accusing you of operating a meth lab using city water, now they get to sue the city water provider for not cutting you off. That's basically what this is

[–] dan@upvote.au 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is probably a better analogy. Thanks.

Only if the private biz sells meth

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 124 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wanna push everyone to the dark web? This is how you do it. People will just become obsessed with covering their tracks. You'll have to rip open countless companies and organizations to get this to work. Fuck 'em. Prying eyes can eat shit and die.

[–] hogmomma@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You might be exaggerating people's technical knowledge, desire to increase their technical knowledge, and / or their desire to effect change.

On the flip side what choice will they have after sony's AI gets them cut off by claiming rights to the pictures of thier own kids on facebook. They will need lots of tech to get back online. And we know there are people who will find a way to make it dead simple.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Running i2p or Tor isn't that challenging and demand drives innovation. I could see one-click solutions taking off in a few months if people were willing to pay a few bucks a month to download basically anything the dark web can offer.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Exactly this. Streaming was a thing long time before Netflix, but they made it so damn easy.

Now Netflix fucked it, and streaming piracy became so damn easy that more people did it than before.

If they close down piracy streaming/download, guess what. Dark web access, or i2p maybe, will be so damn easy.

People are willing to do it, if there's no service that's worth it's money.

Piracy is a service issue. Most of us would pay, if the service is good enough.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TOR is easy enough to set up that if you know how to install a program on your computer and run it, you're good to go. It's not the ideal way to run TOR, and is still somewhat insecure, but can be done in a few clicks.

Back in the early 00's, the amount of people learning how to download pirated music safely, arrange and burn a CD with it skyrocketed. Fast forward a few years and people with no real computer skills were learning how to rip and burn DVDs.

I wouldn't underestimate the potential of people with motivation to circumvent an oppressive system.

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 118 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am fully confident they will make the worst, and most unconstitutional, choice.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They will make the choice that they are paid to make

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Clearance Thomas has entered chat.

"Nothing in the constitution says internet use is a right"

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm gonna go to businesses I don't like, hop on the Wi-Fi, and pirate from all the most obvious trackers.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Selective enforcement.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Great sentiment but we all know a business will get a pass for this just like when Meta got busted torrenting all those books and were told its okay because they're using it to train their AI.

only one way to find out!

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is that the conclusion? I thought that's still under investigation. I remember reading about it months after the first reports.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

It intentionally got buried in legal, it's likely going to take 10 years and end up as a settlement out of court

[–] ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This seems like the best strategy realistically. If scotus makes it everyones problem, then make it a problem for those with the most to lose from losing internet access.

Starbucks in particular would have a bad time lol

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They wouldn't though, large businesses see no consequences from laws that you and I would see consequences for.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then you get your pirated content with no worry, for once I seethis as a win win!

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Naw, they will figure out how to target you specifically.

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Wanna learn about the threats to your livelihood posed by this upcoming court case? Pay us just $5 a month! Don't worry, we'll automatically increase that to $10 a month after three months. No action required."

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when a certain company just paid a large fine for pirating information to train AI?

So step 1 should be to remove Internet access to Meta, if you aren't going to do that, then it is 100% corrupt.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Problem being, does anyone do anything about it being corrupt?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope the SCOTUS justices aren't using 3-strikes-you're-out ISPs! All it would take is three random DMCA takedown notices and they'd lose Internet.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago

What a FASCINATING concept!

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sony so mad at Cox for not cutting off someone's Internet for downloading they'll take it to the SCOTUS, but they won't even use the frankly abusive laws they already have access to to just sue the end user? What is even going on?

[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sony is really anti consumer. I went to buy one of their PC games the other day, but it is not available in the country I am presently in right now along with a few other developing counties when I looked into it. So if you want the title, your only option is Torrent it and such which I am sure is common here.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sony is really anti consumer.

Throwback to when Sony intentionally packaged literal rootkits on their music CDs, so anyone who used the CD to play music had the rootkit automatically installed. And then when they were forced to make a rootkit remover, they simply installed more malware to hide any file names that matched the rootkit’s name. Which introduced an easy way for hackers to hide their own malware, by simply naming it the same as the rootkit.

Right. I forgot about that. What a despicable company. It is almost like to be successful, you have to play dirty but I am not so sure it is Sony’s fault per se as if they don’t their competitors will, which will always ensure the dirty players win. It is a systemic failure of society that we have allowed unchecked Capitalism which ironically will eventually suck the oxygen out of the room to even its own detriment.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sony wanted mo money. Yo money wasn't enough for them. So they got a jury to agree that Cox owes them 1 Billion dollars.

Let's all sing about how much we love Corporate Governance.

^Please^ ^don't^ ^shut^ ^off^ ^my^ ^internet^ ^telecom^ ^daddy^ ^I'll^ ^drink^ ^another^ ^Mountain^ ^Dew^ ^Verification^ ^Can!^

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

USians are gonna be required to get federal internet licenses before they are required to get federal gun licenses

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

all the better to remove the federal internet license requirements.

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