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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

The first half of the book is great.

The second half has ads that take up more and more of the page until you reach a page that is just ads and a QR code.

When you scan the code, it takes you to a website asking you to pay a subscription for the remaining pages.

(If you rate five stars, they send a 10% discount code to your email and add you to a newsletter list without an unsubscribe button.)

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

LoL I thought you were serious for a second

[–] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just a touch too close to reality. That was a beyond-awesome comment.

[–] mrmule@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Isn't that the point though? The book enshittifies

Or am I missing the ironic tone?

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

An older book I frequently refer to:

On Bullshit | Princeton University Press https://share.google/DaiZS6wG7SiOCdRcg

"One of the most prominent features of our world is that there is so much bullshit. Yet we have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, how it’s distinct from lying, what functions it serves, and what it means."

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Google has its own tdl now. Kinda fucked.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The yogurt company Fage has .fage.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Even wilder to me is that they own the *.new TLD. So they have shortcuts like sheets.new and doc.new, which take you to those respective documents in Google Focs. And that's neat for people using them, and unfortunate for literally everyone else in the world who might want to make a fun *.new domain.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

More importantly, why the fuck would anyone actively choose to help Google track their social circle/link usage?

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They also own .here which I want a domain with so bad…

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

He has the first hour and a half (of 9) in his latest podcast, if you want a real preview: https://craphound.com/podcast/2025/08/28/enshittification-episode-500/

~~I decided to order the epub because no matter how I try, I can’t enjoy Wesley’s voice (sorry Will).~~

[–] veebee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

FWIW Cory narrates this book. And he has a YouTube video embedded that has the first hour if you want to hear how it sounds.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree with you about Wesley (🤮), but that's not really relevant to this book?

Cory recorded the audio himself to my understanding (listened to his appearance on the QAA podcast), and it sounds like his voice reading it on the linked podcast.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Wow, my brain really failed me here! I ALSO listened to Picks and Shovels recently, which was narrated by Will Wheaton, and somehow the voices got switched in my memory. You are correct, Cory recorded this himself.

Expected release date: 7 October 2025

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Anyone read other books of his and if so, do you recommend them?

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His ideas are fantastic. Execution and characterization are spotty. Been a while since I read anything of his, but IIRC, he has a tendency to dip into surrealism or absurdity that feels cringey instead of his artistic target.

In some ways, it's similar to a lot of Golden Era SF. You read it for the ideas, not the story.

I do have a favorable opinion of him and his work. I'd really enjoy Doctorow being paired with a traditional fiction author and both being rode herd by a hardass SF editor.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume this is specific to his fiction?

Very much my experience with Walkaway. Unauthorized bread (short story) was a little better executed imo.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Correct, specific to his fiction. I don't know if I've read a non-fiction book of his. However, I've never read a bad article or essay by him. He has great insight.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

For non-fiction I've read Chokepoint Capitalism and The Internet Con. The Internet Con was a lot like his online essays, to the point where it felt redundant, but he does good essays so if you haven't read them it's a good way to get around his work. Chokepoint Capitalism was a little more novel (probably in part because he coauthoured). Neither were very dry, which is significant for the genre.

Fiction, I've read Walkaway and Unauthorised Bread. Walkaway is good worldbuilding with both fascinating and bizarre ideas, but I don't think it's good fiction. Unauthorised Bread is a short story available online and is excellent.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

I find the non-fiction stuff he writes good (e.g. The Internet Con, Chokepoint Capitalism). I believe this book is like that?

I found his fiction, based on the one book (The Lost Cause) I read, to be a bit juvenile in style (as in feels like a young adults kind of book) to the point I didn't quite enjoy it, although the topics are interesting enough.

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

personally i read "Down and Out in the magic Kingdom" as well as the german translation "Backup", which - while not masterpieces - were quite enjoyable.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I highly recommend the recent episode of the QAA podcast with Doctrow, it's an amazing listen!

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

This is Frickin sick.

I must get a copy, i love this authors writing. I also very much enjoy he respects the right of ownership and anti-drm

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's spelled "enshittification."

[–] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He enshittified my favorite word!

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago

He got it right (which makes sense; he coined the term); OP didn't.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is it about how everyone is using the term wrong and it doesn't mean anything anymore?

[–] sol@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why do you think everyone is using the term is wrong? Plenty of words get overused until they become meaningless but I have mainly seen enshittification used to refer to large companies significantly degrading their product in a bid to increase profits which is what I understand it to mean. If it's used a lot, it's because it's happening a lot (often by companies who built their products in the zero interest rate, infinite money era and now have to face the new reality).

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 2 days ago

I see it used as "things got worse" a lot but I did a quick search and looks like you're right, on lemmy it's used correctly most of the times.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

It's happening to governments too, but they call it austerity.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's authored by the guy who coined the term originally; so however he's using it, that's the way it's used.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not necessarily... Death of the author and all that. Once it's in the public, it's out of his hands

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