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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

*2016 was the last normal year.

Let's not forget the chaos and societal upset during the first term.

Edit: I guess it would actually 2015 as the last normal year. 2016 started with Harambe and ended with the far-right winning an election and a Nazi parade honoring trumps election.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bruh we as Americans have such a short attention span/memory I stg.

His first term was "BUILD THE WALL", "CHECK THE BAFROOMS", "SHUT DOWN BASES IN EUROPE" and "NO MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS ALLOWED!!!!"

None of these ideas he's espousing are new, they're just more hateful and damaging. He just got slightly better at understanding politics/government, so now he's more dangerous/efficient.

Yeah, there was too much infighting and incompetence for him to do as much damage in the first term. His cabinet was dropping like flies the first term and we're almost 8 months in and nobody's been fired yet

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I just got a great idea for a new novel! It's about the end of humanity, but with a twist, because the humans don't even know they are done for yet. They think it's just a bit more aggressive flu, but in fact it's highly contagious and each time you get it, it damages your brain a slight bit more. Everyone keeps getting infected and so they slowly get dumber and more aggressive until civilization collapses in wars and economic chaos."

"That's stupid, something like that could never happen."

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The flu is one thing, all of the toxins we are exposed to from companies trying to save a buck is everywhere as well. This is like some 1984 shit we are heading right now. More dangerous chemicals than ever being allowed into our water, our air, and our food. The flu and the covids are just icing on the cake. And I think I have noticed people getting Dumber from the 90s. Not starting in 2020 starting before that.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

agreed, except that the "getting dumber" really only started around 2010 or so..

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

It was Harambe. We didn't reload.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

We were saying this elsewhere, and someone posted a link claiming the real cause was like a week before Harrambe, a rat I think it was crawled into the Hadrian collider I think while on, in switzerland I think they are accelerating particles to study Physics bullshit, higgs boson something.

There was a theoretical possibility they could have started a chain reaction that would destroy the world they were saying when they were talking about building it fyi.

Anyway though this rat got in there when it was on and they are saying that through the timeline off, a week before harambe.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

1975 is the beginning of the end for the US Empire. The treasury spent on a dumb war in SE Asia, Reaganomics and his trickle down BS, Gulf War I & II (wasting more treasure). Krasnov, COVID and fucking Krasnov again.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

1972 was the genesis, there was a business Round Table where the rich and Powerful companies agreed on a long game to overthrow democracy and undo the gains from the New Deal. They have since refined the game, and destroyed any organized opposition. Also obviously had worthless conservatives on their side take over the Democratic Party.

We will make any excuse for these issues to not be deeply rooted in our civilization, huh

[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Just a reminder that traitor lunatic Trump was president in 2019. So no. Lol

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago

Exactly. You have to go back to at least 2015 to find anything resembling normal life.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren't as important as revenge.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

The terrorists ended up winning the long game in the end. They caused America to tear itself apart from within and made it a pariah on the world stage.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

sept 11 was the first time the republicans had the chance to seize the opportunity to put america on track for its fascist fourth reichdom fantasy.

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

9/11 also marks the end of western hegemony as the West destabilized the world and ruined its reputation as a force for good in its pursuit for revenge, leading to the rise of BRICS and other anti-imperial coalitions.

9/11 also coincides with peak imperialism, the final stage of capitalism, which marks the point when increasing exploitation abroad has diminishing returns so capitalists must begin devouring the imperial core, leading to stagflation, enshittification, rent-seeking, and other parasitic activities. This in turn leads to an economically struggling population of former petit-bourgeois, which is a class condition that is especially susceptible to reactionary propaganda, leading to the rise of fascism.

Historians will almost certainly mark 9/11 as the beginning of the end of the American Empire.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 90 points 3 days ago (26 children)

It was 2014. That was the final year of that Obama high where things really felt like they were turning a corner before we were slowly confronted with a world where Donald Trump might actually be president, and the only one standing in his way was somehow Hillary Clinton, a woman that Republicans had been preparing to beat for literally 20 years.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is actually the right answer. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and we're all still in the middle of what is essentially a no-declared-sides WWIII now. 2015 was good, but things had shifted in the world a bit. Countering China was starting to become a huge deal suddenly for the US, and China moved into the South China Sea and did some currency revaluation that was all aimed at their 2029 and 2049 CCP anniversary goals.

Also, I was in fucking phenomenal shape.

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[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Its whatever best year you remember. From my perspective, its been sharply downhill since 2000.

Those older than me often say it went to shit during the Reagan years. Its been slowly getting worse for a long time.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago (9 children)

hhhooo boy...let me tell you about how it felt to live in the world before September 11th 2001...

it was freaking amazing.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

I came here to say the exact same thing. 9/11 changed the US forever in a bad way.

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[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 104 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I think 2016 was the last great year.

It got better in 2021 for a bit.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The moment when Harambe died was when the timeline split.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 77 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Nah, it was 2016, right before orangini and brexit.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Ive lived through a few of these already.

2020 is when everything changed.

2016 is when everything chagned.

2012 is when everything changed.

2008 is when everything changed.

2001 is when everything changed.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In a way it's fair to say that every moment changes every moment that happens after. The entire global economy is still reeling from Reaganomics ffs.

I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I'd seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.

From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off... And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.

Then it started snowballing... Bill Cosby's a rapist, there's a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone's kind of okay with, we created AI but it's only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn't a crime if you brag about it, America's war machine is being turned on its cities... Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.

It's a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children's book in an elementary school.

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The vaccine was really just a sedative; they kidnapped you and plugged in you to the matricksssssssss

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The world has always been crazy. Just more adults are becoming aware of it and able to see it all the time, every day.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump was president in 2019 and I remember him cutting massive amounts of food aid (means on wheels) for elderly people during Christmas time. It was some serious Scrooge shit, except he didn't get three ghosts to make him mend his ways.

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 points 2 days ago

2018 for chile

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 12 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It’s not an alternate timeline.

It’s the most profitable one.

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[–] sundray@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The old people who run the world feel the weight of their impending deaths, but in their narcissism they have mistaken it for the oncoming end of the world.

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[–] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It says 2019 to trick the viewer into commenting "no 2012" or 2016, since no real human thinks everything was great until 2019. It's bait for interactions.

This is an ad for McDonald's

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Are you fucking dumb? Do you not remember Drumpf's first term in office?

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