Fucking voodoo shit, get the fuck out of here with that.
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I thought that was my brain sound
My tinnitus is at the very upper frequency range of my ability to hear, right around 13,000 Hz (I'm 60). Fortunately, I don't notice it except in a quiet room.
extremely dumb question, but would a very loud 13kHz sound kill the cochlear cells that detect that specific frequency?
now we're onto something. shoot that tinnitus dead with high frequency sound lasers
Nuke the tinnitus lol
A few rock concerts should take care of that, then.
Makes it worse from my experience. Tends to deaden everything but the squeal
I've always learned it comes from damaged hair cells inside the ear, how could it be anything but physical? Very surprised it can be picked up with a microphone in an anechoic chamber though
I have a kind of tinnitus that comes and goes based on how stressed out the tendons in my neck and jaw are, on one side, after a pretty serious physical injury.
I can basically massage away my tinnitus a good deal of the time, its only on the side that got fucked up.
Beyond that, I actually have exceptionally good hearing (for my age at least), and I often hear things other people don't even notice, yay autism!
Poorly shielded electronic devices go ~~BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT~~ EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
It's called objective tinnitus. Tinnitus can have different causes, the damaged hair cells one is the most common.
I was with you until: "[...] but it can also be heard by the examiner (eg, by placing a stethoscope over the patient's external auditory canal)." and now I'm even more confused
how could it be anything but physical?
The sound? Well, ultimately sounds are just those hairs and your cochlea and eardrum and all that getting hit by vibrations in the air and sending signals to your brain which get interpreted; damage the equipment so it sends signals even when there's no vibrations in the air hitting it, and you have your non-physical sound. Same way phantom limb syndrome works.
However what if the damage doesn't cause signals in the absence of sound? What if tinnitus is actually the cochlea itself (or something/s in the apparatus anyway) physically vibrating and producing that whining sound? Like a mosquito's wings beating.
Makes sense, and I've also read it's very hard to study as well. Different causes with the same perceived sound sounds like a diagnostic nightmare
Why would a damaged hair cell make noise?
Because they're broken
They're screaming
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Somebody much smarter than me will be able provide answers!
This is the one thing I don’t like about some doctors and scientists: they think they know everything, and in doing so they become lazy and dismissive (or they only care about money and fame). They should always be curious, and always seek to find the next truth, no matter what the general consensus is in the community. Good on De La Mata for challenging the status quo.
What the fuck are you talking about?
It was doctors and scientists that came up with the idea and experiment that recorded the tinnitus and proved it had a physical source.
some doctors and scientists
The person you are replying to very clearly did not mean all doctors and scientists.
Which is a weird thing to bring up when the topic is scientists who were curious and solved a problem.
OK, not like I brought it up. Go be aggressive somewhere else.
No dumbass, they’re explaining to you why it doesn’t matter if they only meant “some” scientists. Like sure, some scientists are corrupt. Some politicians are corrupt. Some priests raped kids. Not every one of them, but if you bring it up the implication is kind of that you’re suggesting that it applies to the story/topic at hand.
It’s the same logic and immigrants are lazy and stealing all the benefits of society.
That logic is: someone invented a stereotype and people ran with it instead of being curious and doing science
I took his comment to mean the people who accepted that tinnitus was not physical.
that's a good philosophy in general. but I'm practice, it's hard.
for every million "that can't be" theories only a handful pan out. doing every "stupid" experiment is practically impossible.
Buddhist monks call this the sound of silence
As do, funnily enough, Simon and Garfunkel
I meditate to high pitched ringing sound, tunes out thoughts.
I think the song is about emotional connection and not listening to each other?