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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

I got rid of my handheld game after I noticed my thumb was starting to twitch while I was at rest.

Apparently, the same thing can happen with ears.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

This is quite the opposite of what the image macro says

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 hours ago

Here is an interview with her. She had it bad:

“I do have a chronic health condition, which made it difficult to pinpoint if it was that that was suddenly getting worse, or whether it was [the damage to the ear] that was causing neurological changes, but I literally couldn’t walk straight; I was having what looked like strokes where I would collapse.” A violinist, she was told by doctors to give up playing. When the COVID pandemic arrived a few months in, she was forced to shield because of ultimately false suspicions that she had MS. “I got really frustrated,” De La Mata says. “I wasn’t getting any of the answers I wanted. It was, ‘Your hearing is fine, you’re young, you’re healthy,’ and it’s like, well clearly I’m not if I can’t walk and people are feeding me.”

https://thequietus.com/interviews/lola-de-la-mata-oceans-on-azimuth-tinnitus-interview/

[–] univers3man@piefed.world 1 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Just another example of doctors not taking women seriously at first sadly. But at least she was vindicated.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 24 minutes ago

Pretty sure this isn't the first time in history someone had this problem.

[–] JonHammCock@lemmy.ml 43 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 6 hours ago

Mawp. Mawp. Mawp.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Fucking voodoo shit, get the fuck out of here with that.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I've always learned it comes from damaged hair cells inside the ear, how could it be anything but physical? Very surprised it can be picked up with a microphone in an anechoic chamber though

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I have a kind of tinnitus that comes and goes based on how stressed out the tendons in my neck and jaw are, on one side, after a pretty serious physical injury.

I can basically massage away my tinnitus a good deal of the time, its only on the side that got fucked up.

Beyond that, I actually have exceptionally good hearing (for my age at least), and I often hear things other people don't even notice, yay autism!

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Poorly shielded electronic devices go ~~BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT~~ EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[–] abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

Poorly shielded inductors in switch mode PSUs/old CRTs for me (Very common in older devices, low current causes the switching frequency to drop into the audible range.)

You can build your own tinnitus inducer with a cheapo 100kHz buck ic, put an air coil inductor on it, and then decrease the current until failure.

[–] zout@fedia.io 44 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's called objective tinnitus. Tinnitus can have different causes, the damaged hair cells one is the most common.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 hours ago

I was with you until: "[...] but it can also be heard by the examiner (eg, by placing a stethoscope over the patient's external auditory canal)." and now I'm even more confused

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

how could it be anything but physical?

The sound? Well, ultimately sounds are just those hairs and your cochlea and eardrum and all that getting hit by vibrations in the air and sending signals to your brain which get interpreted; damage the equipment so it sends signals even when there's no vibrations in the air hitting it, and you have your non-physical sound. Same way phantom limb syndrome works.

However what if the damage doesn't cause signals in the absence of sound? What if tinnitus is actually the cochlea itself (or something/s in the apparatus anyway) physically vibrating and producing that whining sound? Like a mosquito's wings beating.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 hours ago

Makes sense, and I've also read it's very hard to study as well. Different causes with the same perceived sound sounds like a diagnostic nightmare

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 8 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Why would a damaged hair cell make noise?

[–] numlok@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Maybe it's like the way microphones and speakers are basically the same hardware, with the cells surrounding the hair in your ear canal vibrating those hairs "out" at high frequency for some reason.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago

Somebody much smarter than me will be able provide answers!

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

My tinnitus is at the very upper frequency range of my ability to hear, right around 13,000 Hz (I'm 60). Fortunately, I don't notice it except in a quiet room.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

extremely dumb question, but would a very loud 13kHz sound kill the cochlear cells that detect that specific frequency?

[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

now we're onto something. shoot that tinnitus dead with high frequency sound lasers

[–] four@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago

Nuke the tinnitus lol

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A few rock concerts should take care of that, then.

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Makes it worse from my experience. Tends to deaden everything but the squeal

[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 24 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I thought that was my brain sound

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Brain coil whine

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This is the one thing I don’t like about some doctors and scientists: they think they know everything, and in doing so they become lazy and dismissive (or they only care about money and fame). They should always be curious, and always seek to find the next truth, no matter what the general consensus is in the community. Good on De La Mata for challenging the status quo.

that's a good philosophy in general. but I'm practice, it's hard.

for every million "that can't be" theories only a handful pan out. doing every "stupid" experiment is practically impossible.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Buddhist monks call this the sound of silence

[–] hoppolito@mander.xyz 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

As do, funnily enough, Simon and Garfunkel

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 0 points 6 hours ago

I meditate to high pitched ringing sound, tunes out thoughts.

I think the song is about emotional connection and not listening to each other?