I mean, even if it was 1 in 10 people that would still be like 30 bucks each. Most of those buy now pay later plans are interest free anyway.
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Man, say what you will about credit cards, but at the very least with many of those you get rewards of some sort. BNPL is just the consumer version of the payday loan; you get nothing but the scam.
Idk, I do them when there is no interest involved. Like my credit card I only do it when I have the money though.
For what reason? Am I missing out on something?
Seems like it's better to just pay now if you have the cash.
Assuming you need to buy the product, taking on zero interest debt gives you greater liquidity that you can theoretically activate elsewhere to improve your cash flow. For the amounts and time scales of BNPL, though, I don’t entirely see the point.
For the ~~amounts and time scales~~ hard inquiries of BNPL, though, I don’t entirely see the point.
FTFY
I got a car loan once even though I had the cash to buy outright. I didn’t want to drain my savings and end up high and dry if there was an emergency. It was worth it to me to pay a little interest so I still had a cash buffer.
If I were living paycheck to paycheck like many folks are, I imagine the logic would be similar for smaller purchases.
Eh, mostly just because less money coming out of my account at once feels better and there isn't a downside really. It's mostly like Amazon's pay in 4 etc, especially if I think there is a chance I might return it. I would not ever not pay it off and incur fees. Its nothing special, I don't touch afirm though generally just Amazon and paypals short duration things.
The rewards are there to keep you make them money.
Some one has to pay for the rewards and the multi billion dollar companies usually don't give money away for free without some plan. In the end, the consumer pays for the rewards because they add it on the product price.
I wonder what would happen if everyone suddenly stopped being in debt. Really wish people would just stop feeding the beast.
The banks and shareholders are delighted.
Paypal had a 20% cashback thing going on when you use BNPL. I'm sure that contributed.
This is why I used it.
0% apr plus 20% back I mean come on!
Whhhaaaa is it over??
Damn, that's a pretty decent deal for a big purchase.
It's fucked but with a charitable view, I can see some logic.
For all the nonsense, there are a handful of good deals on the Friday/Monday. If I were living paycheque to paycheque, seems like a bnpl scheme could let me budget say, November to February for christmas gifts, interest free unlike a credit card.
That being said, that's the theory. I imagine a lot of folks end up in over their heads much like credit cards etc.
If I were living paycheque to paycheque
I would just reject consumerism and not buy anything. You very rarely save money by buying things, maybe some tools, or seeds/cuttings for things you can grow to eat.
the thing I don't understand with so many people being paycheque to paycheque is that, like, you need to come up with the money sooner or later. so just don't fucking spend it on what you don't absolutely need, and build up some savings.
like, I get that some people are literally hand to mouth, I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the people with a 2 year old car and newer clothing who claim paycheque to paycheque but use BNPL schemes. that's just shitty financial decisions. if you're financing every gift season, maybe... just save up a bit of money before each gift season by cutting back temporarily on something else? or do you like paying extra to be in debt unnecessarily? you clearly have the capacity to repay the loan, so just save for it ahead of time and pay less overall because no fees...
What's the difference between this and credit card debt?
Buying on a credit card doesn't incur interest fees until a month after the purchase so you can pay it off right away.
This is guaranteed to incur fees right out of the gate and cannot be paid back faster than they want.
How does buy now pay later compare to credit cards. Like everyone used to have those, have they given out less, or is that staying the same/more?
BNPL generally has far less consumer protection than CCs. It's also vastly easier to access BNPL services as they're typically inserted into the payment process online, and don't do a very good job of informing consumers of things like repayment terms and interest charges.
There's definitely a case to be made that they deliberately target those who are less financially aware who are most vulnerable to predatory lenders pushing them into unmanageable debt.
The only BNPL service I ever use is PayPal. The math shows no interest and it will literally take out 1\4 of the total cost over a two month period which works great for me as I'm paid no weekly. Any other BNPL service is stupid because of the extra credit cost your paying on top of your carts price.
It is worse as they don't report when you are paying the loan unlike credit card. They only report that you paid it off. So it just messes with your credit score.
Cyber Monday is funny because it started with people buying things at work so it wouldn’t show up in their shared computers’ browser history, and now it’s like a whole made-up thing
So last year there was 40 million less in consumer debt generated over the shopping days? Am I mathing that right?
Just for 'buy now pay later', but yes
I do know that while I was getting all the family Christmas shopping done with Black Friday I saw a few buy now pay later offers. Most prominent was Pay Pal. The offer was if you use their buy now pay later feature with zero interest, they give you 5% in PayPal cash (whatever that means). I saw it several times, so I figure people were jumping on that
We are a sentient ponzi scheme.
When I was younger and was just freshly moved out, I used BNPL 0% interest a lot (iirc it was Newegg, was like 15 years ago). It was kind of necessary to get a computer and I had just got an RA contract that paid stipends monthly, guaranteed for 5 years.
If you already have money and can get 0% interest, you can reinvest that cash as long as you can guarantee a payoff (set reminders!). You can put that $2,000 in a CD for that exact amount of time, too, and earn yourself back 3%-4%. That said, they might have caught onto my grift cause they usually offer 5% back OR 0% interest, lol.