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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 124 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's so fucking bleak from a corporation that is responsible for it.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Boot-person, here.

You know who's secretly laughing inside? Any boot fan looking at your fake ass Doc Martens or Timberlands.

Both sold out to VC money decades ago.

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What do you recommend? I’m not in the market right now but I probably will be in the near ish future.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The best mid-high range brand boot is RedWing.

They're not "the best" literally ever, but they're close and they have stores everywhere and they're serious about boots. Them and Thorogood's trade blows back and forth as competitors. Can't go wrong with either, and get wool socks. You'll thank me for it.

Do not go to Boot Barn...

who is "The Best?"

Nick's, no contest.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Red Wing is expensive but I've put thousands of miles on mine. The tarsal guard saved my foot when someone (fuck you Brent) set a 6000lb pallet down on it while I was trying to undo his stupid fucking knot that he tied in the ratchet strap for God knows what reason. I have another pair that's just safety toe and they are my favorite pair of shoes.

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

I’ve heard nothing but great things about Red Wing and apparently there’s a store nearby, but they are out of my price range. I’ve considered saving up for a pair but wasn’t sure it would be worth it. Maybe I’ll finally check them out, try a few on, see what the hype is all about. I know they’re supposed to last a very long time. Everything you’ve said I’ve heard, I just don’t know if I can stomach spending that much on footwear.

Also, I used to work with a Brent who nearly crushed my foot under a pallet not much lighter than what you said so I feel that for sure. Thankfully he missed though.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't Red Wing move most of their boot manufacturing to China? They've got one or two lines still made in Red Wing MN but iirc it's mostly China now.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They have several product lines and many are still made in the states, but from what I've seen in-store, their Chinese footwear might be made there but they're as tight on designs with them as the US-made boots, although many of the cheaper boots have molded soles instead of welts, so it isn't exactly 1-1 comparisons.

[–] PoliteDudeInTheMood@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

I was there last month looking for some safety shoes to replace my redwing boots as I've changed roles in my company and don't need 8" boots anymore. They didn't have any shoes in stock because they were partnering with New Balance for their fall lineup of safety shoes. I couldn't wait, so I picked up an ultra light 6" boot that I'm pretty happy with. Still fucking expensive though.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Venture capital

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago

Are you the OG poem-sprog from Reddit? If so you gave me a poem back in the days, can't remember what it was about anymore I'd have to dig it out, but I certainly remember it happening. Hi!

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Especially given that their product doesn’t last all that long, most can’t even replace the sole because they glue instead of stitch or welt.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 48 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness.

-Terry Pratchett "Men at Arms"

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There's some truth here but it's definitely not THE reason the rich are rich, not even close.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Its just a microcosm of how being poor is really expensive, while there are tons of ways to save money while wealthy. That doesn't end up being the cause of wealth inequality but it does give a certain inertia to those class positions.

Edit: because I misremembered the quote and vimes does present it that way.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Unless boots were something that makes money.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Is "replacing the sole" still a thing we can do with some boots? I keep replacing my boots because the sole is worn down, but the rest of the boot is still good, and I'd love to have the option of just replacing the sole. Are there companies that make boots where this is possible? Or do I need to find some local shoemaker?

[–] outa@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 hours ago

Jim Green is another brand that makes relatively affordable, easily resoleable boots. Some of their styles have eyelet panels which are designed to be replaceable as well. I quite like mine.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 7 points 20 hours ago

If you're not spending more than 200 for your boots, probably not. The lowest price boot I know that is Goodyear welt (replaceable sole) is Thursday Boot Company. The big names are Redwing and Wolverine, and even some Wolverine aren't meant to replace the sole.

Absolutely. As long as the boots are made properly and the sole isn't just glued on. I think a lot of Danner and Redwing boots are resolable.

I've got a pair of Danner's that I really like.

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Red wings offers this for their boots.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

About half. If it’s glued like a sneaker it can’t be done, but a (real) stitch or welt can be done.

Some brands glue and stitch, so it looks doable but isn’t (most timberlands)

[–] WagnasT@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

If you need to worry about electrical insulation just get new boots, if not shoe glue will give life for a a bit longer.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

It's a bleak joke, would work on me

Timberland boots don't retire. They constantly slack off at work and quit in a rage when confronted about it.

...also I'm pretty sure they were smoking crack while driving the service van

[–] blueamigafan@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Please tell me this is satire..........

[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This ad is going to last about as well as their products.

I just had to shoe cement the sole back on my Timberland Pro boots that I’ve only worn a handful of times over the last two years. Cheap crap.

I was kicking old and rotted wooden spindles off of a deck we were replacing with the steel toe. It knocked the sole of 2/3 of the boot in the process. The leather has some good marks where you can see the hits were generated. I know it wasn’t the best way, but it was like punching through a wet paper bag with how rotted they were. Ugh.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Have theu changed hands ? I bought a pair in 1994 and still wear them, I only wear them a couple times a year... but still

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I bought a pair in 1994 and still wear them

That's why. They sold out and went public since then.

[–] WagnasT@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I've had the same pair of timberland pro boots for 2 years, i walk about 5 miles a week in them through train ballast, they're still mostly like new.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Whelp, there's our 出口.

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Cynicism 101