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He was shot in the neck and is presumably dead, as a staggering loss of blood was reportedly observed.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 22 points 1 day ago

This is what the first img that popped up when I searched "charlie kirk meme"

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it odd that I am kinda stuck on the fact he was not shot in the head? Like all those years of people making his head huge and face small when they missed out on the guys neck.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could've been the guns variable accuracy, IE they aimed at his face but hit the neck.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I’m all for gun ownership but you can do better than just accepting mass numbers of deaths.

Make gun education a serious part of gun ownership. Guns shouldn’t be easily accessible to anyone regardless of training.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also American society needs serious unfucking at all levels. Conservatives are bonkers but the "gun deaths are due to mental health issues" argument has merit; healthy and well-adjusted people don't grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people. Guns are a scapegoat so that politicians can avoid addressing the real issues.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

healthy and well-adjusted people don't grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people

People are still fundamentally apes. People get angry, people get drunk or high, people are low on sleep. Well functioning societies realize that at times people are not healthy and well-adjusted and try to limit the damage that someone can do to themselves and others in those circumstances. The US isn't the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed. What makes the US unique is that it makes tools for murdering people widely available to anybody who wants them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US isn't the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed

Yes, but it's one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it. Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe too despite no relaxation of gun control laws? France is even talking about regulating knive sales due to knife-based crime. Not so coincidentally, this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty. Also, one reason I say it's a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain. This points to a deeper factor beyond gun laws leading to the amount of gun violence in America, because as it turns out violence in America is just insane across the board. All countries have people with mental health crises, but the absolute inadequacy of the response to those crises and the number of financial and social destabilizing factors making them more frequent and worse is uniquely American. I mean, with nonsense like tent cities being a common thing of course gun crime will be through the roof. This would explain why places like Norway, Austria and Serbia are near the bottom of homicide rating lists and the top of gun ownership lists at the same time.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but it's one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it.

It's true that the US social safety net is bad, but the US isn't that much more crazy than other places. If you search for "mental health care crisis in ______" you'll see every country thinks they have a mental health care crisis.

Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe

Is this based on statistics or a feeling? Statistically it seems like it's a very low but steady rate, although statistics are skewed by Spiders Anders.

this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty

It's also happening at a time of mass social media where fear about this sort of thing spreads like wildfire.

one reason I say it's a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain

Sure, but Brazil's stabbing death rate is 8x that of the US, I guess their mental health is 8x worse? South Africa is more than 30x the US rate, so they must have some really crazy people there. There are some other major differences between the UK and US, just like there are other major differences between the US and Brazil or the US and South Africa.

The US does have issues with its response to mental health, but it's not so different from other places. The lack of a social safety net in general causes problems. It means both untreated mental health issues, plus people living in poverty which leads to crime too. But, the bigger issue is that when Americans have a bad day, guns are so incredibly easily accessible.

Take a look at stabbing deaths in the UK vs. US and gun murders in the UK vs. the US. Yeah, stabbing deaths are maybe 50% higher, which points to something causing more violence. But, gun murders are 7000% higher, which suggests that the #1 issue really is access to guns.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with you.

“Guns don’t kill people, people do,” is broadly true.

They sure make it easier though, which is why they shouldn’t be anywhere and everywhere.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people..

.. With guns.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Americas entire culture around guns needs to change, not just a little bit more training and education.

People who misuse guns don't respect them or the power they yield. They views them as toys, and more often than not fuck around and find out.

Teaching them how to lock a gun up and telling them it's important won't change behaviours until people start to respect guns and fear them. Not casually pose with them for Christmas cards with their grandbaby in the room.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Global_Liberty@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I wonder if his children thought this when they learned their father was murdered.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Live by the sword ...

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Finally, a guy that leads by example

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Possibly through the spinal cord. I've watched it a few times and its hard to tell. This whole thing has made me emotionless when these horrible people get their karma. I still feel for people that are clearly victims but find it impossible to see someone like him as a victim.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Worth it to him, I guess. Ok.

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