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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

On the job? Nearly 100% of the people being targeted in this pogrom commented on their own accounts on their own time on behalf of nobody but themselves. Many, if not most, of the people being targeted did not even advocate for violence, but commented on Kirk’s horrific and vile rhetoric or well documented, often recorded, statements.

Because we live in a dystopian capitalist hellscape where we are chattel for feudalist corporate overlords, we can have our livelihoods and homes and lives taken away at a moments notice for daring to speak out against our violent, dishonest, greedy fascist oppressors. This is the very outcome Kirk would have wanted, the sick, Goebbels-like nazi that he was. I’m sure he would have delighted in all the pain and suffering and injustice that resulted from his slaying.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Everyone fired over this needs to hire a lawyer and that lawyer needs to go through all the social media posts of the other employees and see what was said when George Floyd died, and every other well publicized death or attempted murder of non MAGA people, and see if there were similar firings over comments made.

I'm willing to bet there weren't and a good lawyer can use that for a nice settlement for these clients.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 86 points 1 day ago

These are legitimately funny. Really picking the best ones to highlight. "Ashley Creekbaum allegedly commented on Instagram: “I think he should be forced to carry that bullet in his body. That bullet has a right to be there because it’s a gift from god.”"

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 116 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

On the one hand this is how it’s supposed to work. Free speech as a legal concept in the U.S. only protects you from the government…

…on the other hand it would be really helpful if there were a list of companies that were firing folks for being critical of Charlie Kirk…

…you know…for reasons…

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Probably easier to compile a list of those supporting free speech. Spoiler alert: there's not many.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's what free speech is around the world, not just in America.

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)

But "Free Speech" is often referred to as though it is some magical incantation in the USA. It may be my ignorance, but I haven't come across anything to imply it's seen that way in other countries.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Freedom of speech is often conflated with non-discrimination.

i.e. A grocery store clerk mentioning politics om the job. In a non-"at-will" state and with a non-disgusting contract between employee and employer, the employer never comes under "Free speech" violations, but discrimination ones.

Even in such a mix of specific circumstances (the state, the employee and the employer being sane rule-wise), there'd still need to be a counterexample - i.e. would the same happen if the person held a slightly different belief or posessed a slightly different shade of skin, set of chromosomes or some other discriminator.

It's a higher ask than a "Free Speech" card, but it is a protection. (Some restrictions may apply).

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

There’s a difference between the legal concept as it relates to the constitution and the broader ethical principle on which the first amendment was based.

We can still talk about the ideal of free speech outside of the government. In fact, this ties into the myth of “free enterprise” which suggests that everything companies do is about freedom but everything the government does is about tyranny. This is obviously nonsense but we’re so indoctrinated to it that we rarely question it fully.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah Facebook posts have been getting people fired for years. Just a few weeks ago someone at my job got fired for talking shit about the company on Facebook along with posting pictures. They framed it as he was fired for having his phone on him when it's supposed to be in your locker, but obviously it wasn't that.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a great example of how we don’t live in a democracy for a large portion of our waking life. Our workplace isn’t a democracy, unless we are really lucky.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

unless you fight to make it so, for the unions make us strong.

any reply regarding "anti union laws" should keep in that I'll reply that it means we need to fight more.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did the idiot who wants to kill the homeless get fired?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

None of the people who regularly say god awful things about Americans everyday will ever get in trouble. The right constantly calls for violence and when they get what they want they say it is the left's fault. It is a fucking joke for sure.

[–] Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Well they work for fox news and chances are they wouldn't fire somebody for saying that. The person apologized surprisingly for saying that though.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is the "lethal injection for the homeless people" guy fired yet?

[–] alt_xa_23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He apparently apologized, though I have not read what exactly he said.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

"When someone show you who they really are, you should believe them".

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

STUPID People! If they DIDNT want to Be Fired they SHOULD have just Publicly held The SAME Views as Charlie and told people that GAYS AND TRANNIES AND BLACKIES AND MEXICANTS deserve to DIE HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATHS VIA Public Execution! THEN their Jobs would be SAFE!

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they DIDNT want to Be Fired they SHOULD have just Publicly held The SAME Views as Charlie

I'm so confused. Is it okay to support political violence or not? Are we firing people for supporting Trump and Kirk now?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

BigMacHole is famously a MAGAposting parody account

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

General advice:

  • Get off Facebook.
  • Learn what "tit for tat" is.
  • Don't talk with the police.
[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Also

  • Get off Tik tok and instagram they are the same shit.
  • You can also call it "quid pro quo" sadly many just want to take and not gove anything back
  • And realize the police will check your social media.
[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago

The right really are a bunch of snowflakes.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago

You are free to agree with the Nazi but not question his motives.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, the only one that I could agree with is the Marine that was fired. Sorry but UCMJ has it's own very specific code for politics and limited free speech rights because military.

The rest, kind absolute BS, especially the Texas coach but honestly, when do we say enough is enough and people actually fight back and do unto others here? You know that every time something like this happens, Hortman was a good example, the Right goes on a celebration spree and there are never any consequences because the "Left" never plays Calvinball witht hem.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Found one of the groups hell bent on doxxing anyone they don't like and getting them fired. Free speech under attack by the right as usual

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1155050949879089/

[–] 8H2k2139@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'd be a shame if the person running that got tattled-on to her own employer...

Edit: btw anyone who googles the prominent name posting on that FB group will find she very publicly works as a real estate agent whose company could be contacted to alert them to her violent nature - something I think she herself loves to do!

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I don't know too many company's who would want to be associated with that type of publicity one way or the other

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are deciding what side of American history they are on.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A lot of people just want to be on the winning side and have no moral compass

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

track the businesses firing for this and if you win the civil war make them pay wages for the lost time

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

It cracks me up that everyone acting with empathy and sadness is repudiating everything charlie kirk stood for.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is their digital night of the long knives. It’ll start with people mocking his death and end with people refuting his beliefs.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Night of the Long Knives was when the Nazi party actually went out to hunt and murder opponents in the government. This isn’t that. Yet.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Thats why I said digital, to lower it from that extreme.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Some of those comments weren’t even that bad. One of them was more of a comment on right abortion stances than actually celebrating his death.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Private enterprises do not have to honor the tenants of free speech in the employment practices, nor should they be required to. They should be able to, for example, fire someone who spouts racism, sexism, xenophobia... or any other form of hate speech, which has happened many times. But likewise, we do not have to support private enterprises that are more worried about PR blow back than basic decency and liberty to allow their employees to speak your mind, that use their position of authority to curb speech that might be distasteful to them or their customers but otherwise does nothing wrong. We can boycott and protest these enterprises, and we should. And for those enterprises that are public, that answer to us, we should make sure they know that the jobs of those responsible are on the line too.

Some of the things said in this article amount to celebrating violence, and I can see good reason to distance your company from that. But there is no reason to fire anyone that simply expresses reasonable dislike for one's behavior and words, or for warning others that words can have consequences. Actually, the irony for firing someone for warning that words can have consequences is almost comedic, except the wrong people faced the consequences. Anyone firing anyone for simply speaking ill of the dead, for pointing out that they weren't the hero or beacon of righteous truth people are pretending they are, should be fired as well.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This functionally means that the majority of worker's lives are under undemocratic and totalitarian rule by private enterprise.

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