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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 5 points 42 minutes ago

They're worried he does well and more people like him show up on their home turf.

Also, Streisand Effect.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 141 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I’m very surprised that people are so scared about a mayoral election. Yeah it’s NYC but like it’s not like he’s gonna have that much reach that the fucking PM of Israel needs to make a statement about it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 47 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

that's how much they fear anything that even remotely resembles actual socialism.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I ... suspect it might be more that they are scared of the racial component. Not even "scared".

Silicon Valley is a burgerhole of Curtis Yarvin, dreams of technofascism with its inhabitants on top, impunity with wages not quite mirroring quality, and a bit - American academic culture. And American academic culture is the fucking opposite of the European one, or so I've read.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

race is something the ruling class still takes advantage of to divide us. they fear we are getting too aware and.. unsatisfied, hence the recent stuff. they might even win, but they are clearly fearful atm.

[–] openrev0lt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

exactly. the ruling class needs to eliminate the virus before it spreads.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

See also the entire Indochina war, where America tried to bomb Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos into being friends with them

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 33 minutes ago

That's the second Indochina war, and American bombing was mostly done against Vietnamese targets in the jungle in the neighboring countries, so mostly it was still Vietnam. But yes, they regularly hit civilian targets in the neighboring countries.

The first Indochina war was France testing its contemporary new and shiny western military doctrines in the wild and finding them lacking.

In general this seems to be a pattern, western nations indeed value lives of their soldiers very much. I doubt it's because of humanism (they don't value enemy civilian population's), rather because of inherent racism. But it shows in the doctrines, they are always looking for a way to create a situation where they can hit their enemy, but their enemy can't hit them, and where they are moving so much faster than their enemy, that their enemy could as well be a sitting duck. To create a baby beating disposition. That's harmful for military's experience and esprit de corps, but appeals to the western nations' feel of superiority. Long term harm, short term impressions.

So - it didn't work. They were using air logistics and supply depots in a system all over the place and small expert mobile forces and all that stuff the western public still considers proper way of fighting a war. In other words, they tried to cheat. And Viet Minh just did their work honestly, in many small steps, over long enough time.

Of course the French logistics were conditioned by fighting on the other side of the globe from metropoly, and Viet Minh fought at home. But honestly it seems to be a pattern in all wars for any European nation, ideas of superiority and quick spectacular solution are always replaced for more classical understanding once actually tried. It's a cliche that USSR's approach was mass assault with no regard for lives, but, ahem, Tukhachevsky is one of the creators of the ideas that became Wehrmacht's doctrine in the beginning.

While the USA in Vietnam decided to show another thing - that they are not France and can just burn all of the fucking jungle with their power. And they burned much of that, except their population wasn't ready even for the pretty moderate losses there (like 4x what USSR lost in Afghanistan).

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 82 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

He’s proving the point that the DNC has denied for well over a fucking decade: stop listening to money, start listening to people, and you will win. That’s it. That’s the whole argument.

And the DNC establishment is scared shitless, because they know it’s working, and they know more people are gonna run campaigns like he’s doing, and there’s gonna be a sea-change in terms of what the fuck the Democratic Party is (that, or a third party is going to spawn and absolutely fucking crush the DNC).

The neoliberals are looking down the barrel of a gun right now, and they know they put themselves there.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

Fuck... That's a compelling take.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I just saw another candidate doing similar running for a Senate seat in Maine. He's already said he would vote out Schumer

[–] bricklove@midwest.social 3 points 1 hour ago

Also Omar Fateh for mayor of Minneapolis, Abdul El-Sayed for senator of Michigan, Kat Abughazaleh for Illinois representative, and probably more I'm not aware of. It's encouraging to see candidates like these get traction.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

None of what he is doing is unique. There are plenty of dem candidates that have listened to people over money. dems are worried about associating with him because he has controversial opinions that might not go down so well outside of NY. Pretty much everything you've said is just fantasy you've invented.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except that what he’s doing he can actually do. Someone who ends up in Washington and gets outvoted by the majority centrists isn’t a bad thing, and actually sorta helps their image without forcing any real change. Mamdani, though, he’s the top dog in a mayoral position and can actually get shit done. They’re scared of him not because his ideas are unique but because they can actually be realized at this scale.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Except that what he’s doing he can actually do.

How can you say that when hes only just won and still hasnt done anything?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Because I know how cities work, ya dingus.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

What is he doing/done that would actually a game changer? Tell me why I should be excited about him because it seems to be that the only unique thing about him is he openly criticizes isreal. Dont get me wrong, I like most of his policies and I think hes an ok mayoral choice I just dont see the reason for the excitement and I feel like all the "establisment is scared" articles are fake hype by PR firms.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I was with you until the sentence you concluded with, which is frankly categorical bullshit.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

ok? I dont hate Mandami I just think most of his policies are meh and as far as left wing candiates go hes weak.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You’re entitled to that opinion; I’m entitled to disagree with your opinion.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Just one thing to add here, respectfully.

You're both entitled to deez nutz.

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 90 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

He won't affect global policy much at all. He's a threat to the mega wealthy because he's a symbol of change in the American people.

This is the same reason the elite went so hard on the communist scare late last century. Back then certain political views were almost a criminal offense. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself here.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

The rise of fascism in the mid-1920s to late 1930s was a direct response by the ruling capitalists to the ascent of real, populist/socialist/communist changes that actually threatened their power and wealth for the first time in history. It happened all over the world (well at least Europe), and it totally makes sense what we're seeing now all over the world.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 hours ago

almost a criminal offense.

My knowledge of this topic is based pretty much on just Hollywood movies, but I was under the impression that it was a criminal offense.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] miked@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

McCarthy hearings?

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 44 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They're worried he will succeed and serve as an example that the people rather than money are in charge, if they could only realize it.

If they truly believed Democratic socialist policies had no legs, they'd leave him alone and watch him fail as an example.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 63 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The real battle isn't left or right. It's up vs down.

Tax wealth not work!

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

sort of, except the right usually (fucking always) fights to protect the rich. while the left (no Democrats don't fucking count) fight for equality and improving everyone's lives.

so it is a left v right, you just renamed the categories.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean sort of but there are a lot of down folks on the side of the ups and that basically just brings us back to what left vs right always was

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 hours ago

This is why more efforts should be spent on helping everyone see that billionaires are the real source of the problem. The rights handbook is just to say the leftist billionaires are the problem.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 50 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Individuals like Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan have responded by wearing shirts that say “We should have more billionaires” in the color scheme and style of Mamdani’s campaign material.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This is the same guy who tweeted that the progressives on San feanciscos city council should die a slow painful death.

[–] nathanjent@programming.dev 7 points 4 hours ago

Is he promoting that we cap assets around $1 billion to allow the less fortunate to come up to that level?

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

🤢🤮🤮🤮

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 66 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

That's fucked up. We need more Luigis.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I can't fully support that, but I'll just add that it would sound better to say "the whole character set of Super Smash Bros"

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago

No that's amazing, we should be all wearing those shirts. Just with an *explaining how they can help

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...For dinner? ...In prison? ...Take a one-way trip to Mars?

If so, then I agree.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago

In those cute submarines made out of a spare water heater and an Xbox controller.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 28 points 8 hours ago

Well, with inflation this will inevitably become true. Be careful what you wish for.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This post has less upvotes in the politics community, where it belongs, than here. Why?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

Because tech is waking up to the fact that they are labor, too.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

c/technology is 3x bigger than c/politics

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Also c/politics is a shit hole.

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club -5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

He's just s mayor. Obviously, people don't know how government works. He needs to be dictator before he can fundamentally change NYC.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That’s your misunderstanding of how cities work, bud. Mayor is a far more powerful position than people believe and municipal elections are crazy important for bringing about real change and bringing it to the people directly.

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

A lot of wealthy people will just leave NYC. Or they will stay with increased taxes and everything will be fine. Just like the fairytales we read growing up.