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[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”

Since I don't feel the need for ambience nor multi-modal experiences in my OS, considering the implementation of that "modality" I'm afraid that even as a long-time Windows user I'm going to have to switch to another OS that closer aligns to my needs.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft really doing everything in their power to make sure I never buy another Windows PC.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I setup a Windows 11 laptop for a friend yesterday, I cannot believe the amount of ads built into the new user experience which are disguised as installation options.

I had to find the tiny, low contrast skip button to avoid signing up for more cloud storage, a Copilot subscription, and an Office365 subscription before I was even able to see the desktop.

The entire left side of the start bar seens to be a news feed which shows ads, opening an Office app requires closing a Copilot ad unless you disable it (individually for every application), it's impossible to create a local user account, it looks like the user folder defaults to their cloud storage so just saving things into your document folder will eventually result in scary "You're almost out of space, buy more here!" ads disguised as system promots, and your bitlocker recovery key is saved in your Microsoft account.

That's just what I noticed in the first 20 minutes.

I'm so glad I ejected from that dumpster fire of an OS.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Its so much slower on my old win 10 machine at work. Meanwhile my Linux box got faster

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I love Windows 11 (the non-copilot+ version) and am positive on AI, but if they pull through with this vision, I WILL switch to Linux once Win11 support ends.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The next version of Debian won't be more ambient and pervasive. It would be just the same as it is today.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way! I've updated to Debian 13 two days ago, and I've got two (!) new lockscreen wallpapers, and you can even configure lockscreen to download picture of the day from Flickr or Bing. Also taskbar has rounded corners, which I'm ambivalent about.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

2! = 2
So the exclamation mark is redundant. 😋

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yup. Off to Linux I go.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Micro$oft doing this has been the best thing for Linux and MacOS

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Microsoft: the biggest promoter for using Linux. "Our goal is to make Windows and it's apps so extremily repulsive even your grandma wants Linux instead. Because we care."

[–] prototact@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

It's funny cause "ambient, pervasive, multi-modal" are all words used when envisioning the future applications of AI, so you know some marketing smuck glanced over the literature (or probably asked an AI to do so for him) and chose them with little care as to how the new Windows will embody these qualities. I am so tired of salesmen,marketing,word salads and entrepreneurship.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Microsoft does the best viral marketing for Linux.

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] zeropointone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I mean... they did tell the truth, didn't they? When I think of Windows 11, terms like operating wouldn't be on my list...

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago

They're no Spinal Tap, for sure.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

That was said by some random Microsoft employee who had no official capacity to say something like that, and the whole thing sounded like they meant to say "latest" anyway. It is and was a worthless statement that got way more attention than it deserved.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

voice as input? lol, can you imagine a busy office with workers all talking at the same time? this is stupid. MS is stupid. I'll stick to Linux thanks.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just rename it to Copilot 12 or something, it’s way too confusing having a product not branded as copilot.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Copilot 365 12 for Home and Family, Copilot Edition.

[–] C4551E@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

M365 Enterprise Edition

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[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Multi modal"

Will it finally be possible to be productive with more that 3 windows open?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, but it can function as an OS, a spyware library and a targeted advertising vector.

[–] mysticmartz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I’m sureAI will hit Linux one day . A lot of the toolset for building LLM’s works out of the box. I’ve used Linux for years.

I suspect if AI gets to distros your have 3 sorts of people :

  1. Privacy aware and dislike the idea entirely

  2. Those that embrace it but only with open weight open source models.

  3. Those that use any AI models as long as it’s not too invasive .

I’m probably a solid 1.5

[–] zeropointone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

So instead of three simple mouse clicks I'm supposed to say "Open mixer channel 34, then open the second insert plugin, select the unlabeled potentiometer that is located in the second row and kind-of third column, then turn it to 30 %, wait, no, not the amp potentiometer, the unlabeled one in the second row and kind-of third column, no, the one to the left of the current one, no, not this one, not this one, not this one..."

A little bit like early graphic programs where you had to type in coordinates and color values but way slower, unprecise and totally unreliable. Sounds fun, I bet this new Windows will be loved by all musicians and audio engineers and graphic designers and video editors - if they even manage to log into their Microsoft account while suffering from a common cold ("Log me [cough] in with Boat[cough]y[cough]McBoat[cough]face[cough]42!"). Looks like the guys at Microsoft had their final dose of sodium bromide.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."

Ah, so now having my computer spy on me is a feature, gotcha

bill look what they did to your baby

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In the interview, Davuluri is asked how AI is going to change the way we interact with computers. Here's what he had to say on the matter:

"I think we will see computing become more ambient, more pervasive, continue to span form factors, and certainly become more multi-modal in the arc of time ... I think experience diversity is the next space where we will continue to see voice becoming more important. Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward."

Watch out Satya Nadella, this guy's coming for your job as Head of Corporate Bullshit.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck does ambient even mean in the context of an operating system? Is it going to be floating around in the atmosphere of my flat? Is the next version of windows gaseous? Is it sarin gas?

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I want a good VR OS but this is just silly XD

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think a lot of people are going to struggle getting their head around the idea of voice being a reliable, primary input method when using a PC, but with agentic AI and the ability for the OS to understand user intent and natural language, it's going to feel a lot more natural than you might think.

You're damn right we're going to struggle. I won't believe it is reliable enough to be anything but infuriating until I see it.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 2 days ago

Ahh, keyboard. How quaint!

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Because we all told Microsoft we desire software that fits these adjectives.

[–] rantpalas@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe someone should inform mr. lead over there that ambient and pervasive do not go together all that great. But then again, windows 11 ‘s components do not seem to play along too well, so they might not be sure what congruence actually is about.

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