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Can't believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, "usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments". Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I'd like you to read this from a guy who's father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a "ricer", you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don't believe you will ever hear a statement like "Look at that gorgeous ricer!!" So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term "ricer" was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say "ricer" and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that "ricer" would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race's cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a "halfer", nor "mestizo", nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

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[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago

Calling the term "rice" in connection to focusing on aesthetics over preformance racist just seems insane to me. There are objectly racist uses of the word rice to harm Asians. However when 99% of the community never even correlated this useage of the word to anything derogatory twords asians, and even use it positivly when someone genuinely likes JDM or overbuilt cars, the word stops being racist

You cant claim racist undertones to a word when people don't corelate that word whatsoever to anything derogatory twords Asians. The modern use of the word spoke about a car that looked like a racecar but didn't have the preformance of one, making it "ugly", and then branched to become a positive term when talking about putting lots of efforts into the aesthetic of something

The evolution of the word is not a moral failing but a redirection from a derogatory borderline slur to a word that captures the idea of "looks over preformance"

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Absolutely wild to me. From my experience, Toyotas are way more reliable than Fords.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I got called out for saying this once, and went back and looked it up. I had meant it sort of neutrally, and there are a lot of neutral uses of it out there, but there are probably just as many clearly negative/racist uses of it, and practically no positive uses.

There's a way of being a racist that is like crypto-racism. It appears neutral, but actually moves the ball forward for racists. And my experiences with many many different kinds of people, is that the people who are best at this are like hardcore Nazis.

I personally am not someone who thinks that advocacy and allyship begins and ends with saying or refusing to say certain words. I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren't allowed to say certain words anymore. But also being conscientious of our speech is a part of it, whether we like it or not. Ultimately it isnt some great loss of my freedom if I decide to call a Yamaha motorcycle a "Yamaha" instead of a "ricer". I have a large enough vocabulary that I can spare a word or two.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of people here need to stop taking this information so damn personally. You didn't know, great, that means you're not racist. Now you do know. So just... Stop? That's it. OP wasn't even a dick about it.

Personally, I'm grateful when I get a heads up that certain terms are racist, so thank you OP!

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I actually extended your PSA over to my Misskey. A great discussion ensued followed by this term and one other being added to the slur list. :P

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Hell yeah, nice work! 💜

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My ex was Korean and she used the term rice rocket when I mentioned I wanted a Mitsubishi Lancer because it's a cool fast Japanese car. Asians aren't a monolith that all think one term or another should be verboten. Assuming all Asians think the term "rice" is a slur is just arrogance.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Same energy as "this one black person said I can say the n word".

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Same energy as "I'm trying to get credit for declaring a random adjective to be a no-no word."

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah, not really, but you do you, alright mate? 😊

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Thank you! You too, buddy!

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

this is blatantly incorrect? Rice is an acronym for "Racing inspired cosmetic enhancements"?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's a backronym that was created to try and coverup its racist origin.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements. That's what rice has always meant to me, and as far as I know everyone around me. You can rice an American car and you can rice a German car just as much as you can rice a Japanese car.

I think this kind of linguistic prescriptivism is one of many things wrong with modern anti-racism movements. It's such a non-issue.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, I had only ever heard this term in the context of Linux desktop customization. Like in the context of superfluous over the top additions that look pretty but ultimately do not add anything to a system and may to some extent degrade performance.

I dont know why I never connected it with the car scene or with racist attitudes. I'm ashamed to say I think I've used the term myself once or twice. Thanks for sharing an explanation of the history of this evidently very racist term, I imagine there are others like myself who have failed to make that connection.

Idk why its so hard to just say "setup". I'm not sure that a use case this particular warrants its own terminology.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago

I'm ashamed to say I think I've used the term myself once or twice.

It's okay, you didn't know then, so didn't use it intentionally to cause harm.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ricing is mucking with compilation flags on Gentoo for no observable gain or even detriment. If it extends to hideous cars of a certain manufacturing origin, I'm sorry for the cars' feelings, but it's not racist until cars start having a race.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you. I'm Asian and it is honestly a bit maddening when I get white-splained as to why the term isn't racist towards Asians.

I may be white, but I'm trans and get awful stuff said at/around me too, so I get it. Gotta have solidarity with other minorities and lift each other up! 💪

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But can I still call someone who rides that kind of motorcycle without proper safety gear an organ donor or is that insensitive?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

Nah that's perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Another term that's great for that is squid, because all their appendages will be broken when they come off.

[–] schildfrosch@feddit.org 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Some people believe that labelling certain words as dirty because they have prejudicial or offensive connotations in a completely unrelated context is effective activism, passing judgement to feel like they're doing something.

One such word is "ricing". It comes from "rice burner", which is a pejorative term referring to East Asian cars and motorcycles. The modern usage has nothing to do with cars or ethnicity.

On a related note, the word "queer" has a similar history.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 38 points 1 day ago (25 children)

It started out as a pejorative (like a cheap car with cheap mods) but has become a positive term associated with customization and a respect for effort involved regardless of financial resources (sometimes cheaper being more impressive).

So uh... Nah I'm gonna keep saying that. You do you.

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[–] sickday@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I agree with the overall message here; there's definitely better words for customisation of a Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

I can't agree that everyone using that term is racist though. I doubt that everyone who uses it is doing so to discriminate or abuse another race. As proven by this thread, the history of that word isn't exactly common knowledge in the spaces people are using it.

"bigot" might be a better term to describe people that know the history of the word and actively refuse to change their ways. It feels like throwing "racist" on here where it doesn't exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that's just me.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn't matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don't have an excuse.

Another example of this is that I grew up with the term "gyped" meaning to have been taken advantage of when making a deal. When I learnt that it was a racist term that denigrates Romani/Traveller peoples, I stopped using it. If I'd continued too, then that would have made me racist :)

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

It’s a racist term, but a lot of people simply don’t know that. How I react depends on their general attitude.

[–] Robyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I appreciate the history lesson. I was always really confused by the term, but just accepted it as a silly random easy to remember word.

I’d prefer if it wasn’t hidden in the comments tho. Presenting it this way is very much inviting conflict, considering most people have no clue.

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