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Can't believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, "usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments". Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I'd like you to read this from a guy who's father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a "ricer", you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don't believe you will ever hear a statement like "Look at that gorgeous ricer!!" So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term "ricer" was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say "ricer" and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that "ricer" would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race's cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a "halfer", nor "mestizo", nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 1 hour ago

It’s a racist term, but a lot of people simply don’t know that. How I react depends on their general attitude.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you. I'm Asian and it is honestly a bit maddening when I get white-splained as to why the term isn't racist towards Asians.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago

I may be white, but I'm trans and get awful stuff said at/around me too, so I get it. Gotta have solidarity with other minorities and lift each other up! 💪

[–] sickday@fedia.io 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I agree with the overall message here; there's definitely better words for customisation of a Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

I can't agree that everyone using that term is racist though. I doubt that everyone who uses it is doing so to discriminate or abuse another race. As proven by this thread, the history of that word isn't exactly common knowledge in the spaces people are using it.

"bigot" might be a better term to describe people that know the history of the word and actively refuse to change their ways. It feels like throwing "racist" on here where it doesn't exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that's just me.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago

there’s definitely better words for customisation of a Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

Any recommendations?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn't matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don't have an excuse.

Another example of this is that I grew up with the term "gyped" meaning to have been taken advantage of when making a deal. When I learnt that it was a racist term that denigrates Romani/Traveller peoples, I stopped using it. If I'd continued too, then that would have made me racist :)

[–] sickday@fedia.io 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn't matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don't have an excuse.

I agree, but you're meme implies that using the term at all makes you racist

The equivalent of this meme would be someone calling you a racist the very first time you ever used the term "gyped". You yourself stated you didn't know that term had racist history, so how could you have been racist?

It's a different situation when someone has knowledge of history and then goes on to use the term. That's textbook bigotry and I would agree that's also racsim, but you're casting a much wider net with this meme encompassing everyone who uses the term knowledgable or not

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

You can be part of systemic racism and not know it. It still affects the other person even if you didn't intend it to.

We live in a society. It's not a personal failing if you were racist and didn't know it. But I think it is a responsibility to try and change for the better, just like in all aspects of life.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My friend, it is a meme. The format doesn't lend well to longform explanation. Why are you choosing to come after me for that, when there are people in this very thread saying that they'll use it regardless?

[–] sickday@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you choosing to come after me for that, when there are people in this very thread saying that they'll use it regardless?

I tried to answer this with my first comment

It feels like throwing "racist" on here where it doesn't exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that's just me.

I hope I'm not coming off agressive or nothing. I'm not saying what you're doing is entirely wrong or anything because it benefits everyone to spread knowledge especially for something like this. I really dislike that it's made normal in Linux circles. But this meme is calling everyone that uses a fairly common term racist while you drop good history lessons on individual comments of people that don't know better. Maybe there's a more effective way to get your point across?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

I hope I'm not coming off agressive or nothing. I'm not saying what you're doing is entirely wrong or anything because it benefits everyone to spread knowledge especially for something like this. I really dislike that it's made normal in Linux circles. But this meme is calling everyone that uses a fairly common term racist while you drop good history lessons on individual comments of people that don't know better. Maybe there's a more effective way to get your point across?

That's fair, I'm sorry if I came across standoffish. This is a meme community though, and a simplified meme wasn't going to be able to convey that full meaning, which is why I brought it up in the comments. Maybe I shoulda dropped it in the text section but I was just frustrated with my friend and wanted to vent a bit of steam. I can go add some stuff to the post.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It started out as a pejorative (like a cheap car with cheap mods) but has become a positive term associated with customization and a respect for effort involved regardless of financial resources (sometimes cheaper being more impressive).

So uh... Nah I'm gonna keep saying that. You do you.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 hours ago (18 children)

You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

*Taps the sign.*

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

I think you should look into reclaiming slurs. The once derogatory term now has a positive meaning and that's imo a good thing. Look at the word 'Queer', most people (especially young people) don't know it used to be derogatory, and I don't think people should stop using it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

With an obvious albeit obligatory note that if you use a word in a derogatory way that's obviously not ok, if you use it with the compliment definition it's a bit different.

Some reappropriation can be at varying levels in different countries which is why (I assume) it's seen as worse in other countries.

If you are to respond I would request to hear your rebuttal without copy and pasting the same article please.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

The claim that "queer" is being reclaimed is easily supported. Not so with OP's term. If you have evidence to the contrary I'll look at it.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, let me clarify. You can't just un-racist a word, unless you're the targeted group, because it makes you feel bad man. I figured that I didn't need to add that caveat? I've talked about the word Queer in other places in the thread.

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 minutes ago

ah that kinda makes sense. Can you explain why who's reclaiming a slur makes a difference? I don't really understand why you wouldn't like a positive meaning to a once negative word. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

I'd reference how "cunty" (used as a compliment) isn't exactly only said by women, but people who are generally seen as 'in the loop'. How come the word referenced in the post isn't treated the same way? I genuinely am asking and find this really interesting.

Also idk if it did but sorry if my message came off as rude before, I was kinda stressed about an advising meeting when I wrote it

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[–] schildfrosch@feddit.org 33 points 6 hours ago (4 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 30 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (6 children)

Some people believe that labelling certain words as dirty because they have prejudicial or offensive connotations in a completely unrelated context is effective activism, passing judgement to feel like they're doing something.

One such word is "ricing". It comes from "rice burner", which is a pejorative term referring to East Asian cars and motorcycles. The modern usage has nothing to do with cars or ethnicity.

On a related note, the word "queer" has a similar history.

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[–] Robyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate the history lesson. I was always really confused by the term, but just accepted it as a silly random easy to remember word.

I’d prefer if it wasn’t hidden in the comments tho. Presenting it this way is very much inviting conflict, considering most people have no clue.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago

I didn't mean to hide it, I thought most would know the usage I was referencing. It seems like, even despite the explanations, people are wanting to argue it's not racist anymore anyway.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just use bosozoku or dekotura instead

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

What's your preferred term? "Linux desktop customization" is a bit of a mouthful.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's the problem. People aren't going to stop using rice as a verb until some new term exists that's appropriately specific, and there is no alternative term I'm aware of.

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Turn it into an acronym, LUSC (Linux UI and System Customization)

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[–] Envy@fedia.io 4 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

The irony of bitching about being racist while stealing AAVE amd then arguing its less racist is hilarious. I haven't used this term in ages but jesus if that aint some regressivist leftism i dont know what is.

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[–] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 7 points 6 hours ago

But that's how I remember to Rest, Ice, Compress, and Elevate injuries

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