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[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 14 points 3 hours ago

The giveaway is that it is 46 meters tall and made of metal, whereas women are typically under two meters and made of flesh.

[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i don't get it. what do they imply? anyway, nice, send it back to Europe, as it doesn't belong in the US anymore

[–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 3 hours ago

I think the French can find a spot for it

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Y'all are just letting these obvious psy-ops waltz in and control the narrative

[–] chaonaut@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Y'all" like you ain't part of the discourse. Don't just complain, educate. What's obvious to you is novel to someone, and you not getting organized with your narrative is just waiting for someone organized to present theirs instead.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 points 21 minutes ago

If someone thinks scrutinizing the gender normativity of a statue from France made in the 1800s is novel, I do not have the power to redeem them.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 140 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I mean they are right, it isn't a woman it's a statue

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 56 points 8 hours ago

ce n'est pas une femme

And they say taking up D&D as a hobby is weird lmao

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Connecting Ishtar to the Statue of Liberty

The Statue of Liberty was a Masonic concept conceived from within Freemasonry. The chief promoter and fundraiser for the project was Edward Laboulaye and he collaborated with the sculptor Frederic Bartholdi to develop a statue of Masonic enlightenment.

 

The statue was developed from within the highest doctrines of Freemasonry. This “enlightenment” took its form in various symbols found in the sculpture itself.

  1. The Crown of 7 Spikes:

This symbol was to represent the enlightenment of the Babylonian sun god Shamesh/Utu. The idea was that this sun god’s occultic illumination could be focused by each of the 7 spikes of the crown. Each spike would flash this occultic enlightenment to each of the 7 “horas” or large landmasses of the world.

In other words, the each spike would flash occultic enlightenment to a continent on planet earth. Each of the 7 spikes would then be representative of one of the 7 large landmasses or continents of the world.

  1. The Tablets:

A common misconception is that the tablets represent the 10 Commandments that God gave to Moses. This is not true. The tablets are engraved only with the Roman numerals standing for July 4th, 1776.

According to the preeminent Statue Historian, Marvin Trachtenberg in his book “The Statue of Liberty” the tablets represented a generic notion of the concept of law. This should not be confused with the Laws of Moses.

Freemasonry gives lip service to Judaism, Christianity and Islam as law-giving religions but Freemasonry tries to synthesize all religions into one central focus…the idea of “law” in general. Hence the tablets being held by the Statue of Liberty carry that general meaning.

  1. The Robe:

In the original planning, the Statue of Liberty was designed in the initial stages to be in color. She was to be wearing the royal robes of scarlet and purple.

It became obvious that for reasons of monetary purposes the statue must be made from copper. The use of copper precluded the use of any color schemes. Thus the original plans for scarlet and purple robes were abandoned.

  1. The Torch:

This item was originally designed to be a golden cup filled with the wine of freedom. This golden cup remained in the planning and was actually made.

However, before completion and shipping of the entire statue, the New York Port authorities asked if there could be some sort of modification to allow for an eternal flame or light to be designed into the statue so that ships could use her as a night time navigational aid. Bartholdi consented to make modifications to the basic cup design to allow for a natural gas flame to be utilized.

The torch we see today is actually the same type of cup design used in ancient times for drinking wine. It featured a handle for the cup at the bottom and the handle looked much like a stick. The golden aspect itself was altered again to conform to the needs of the natural gas flame.

The actual, original golden cup was later sold by the project to the Czar of Russia, Czar Nicholas. In 1917 during the Russian revolution the Communist government took possession of it. The cup has remained in Russian hands but in 1997 was reportedly offered for sale by the Russian government to help pay off Russia’s foreign debts. This author has not been able to determine whether or not the cup was actually sold or not. It is only known that the cup is still in existence.

  1. “Mother of Exiles”

“Mother of Exiles” is a key term in the poem by Emma Lazarus. In her famous poem about the statue, (now etched into the base of the statue) Lazarus refers to the woman as “The Mother of Exiles”. The poem has forever indelibly linked the statue to immigrants from around the world.

The statue is the patron “saint” of immigrants everywhere. Oddly enough, the Babylonian goddess Ishtar was also the patron goddess of immigrants in Babylon because as a goddess of personal freedom, she brought hope to immigrants seeking to make a better life for themselves in Babylon.

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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

While i have to admit that this was a fun article to read, i also feel the need to state that this is by far not a scientific source and borders between speculation and "conspiracy style" usage of selective information.

The article ends with this:

The reference to “Mystery Babylon — Mother of Harlots” is referencing Ishtar, the Mother of Harlots of Babylon…and her “mystery doctrines” such as salvation by sex for money. There are numerous other statue of other pagan deities in the US Capitol building and around the nation’s capitol city. America is indeed the Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17 and 18.

Suggesting that America is referenced to in a 2000 year old book is just... bulhshit, i gues.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago

Yeah, the image of Isis -> Venus -> Liberty is pretty established, but this was just the first site I found with more than a sentence or two about it. There’s definitely some, let’s say “unproven” claims on there as well.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 5 points 5 hours ago

She'll be Eiffel 65 in 12 years.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 7 hours ago

That’s clearly a non-consensual marriage they have with the statue.

[–] espurr@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 hours ago

Transvestigate 311 🏳️‍🌈