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[–] GianaSistersAddict@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago

What about: Explore the neitherworld of gopher, IRC and the (telnet-)BBS community and be fine?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

fucking everything kind of sucks right now.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago

What is making you stink discord isn't also selling all its data to AI companies?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?

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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because UI/UX beats any abstract things like privacy & data ownership.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system…

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Go for the voicechats, stay for the poorly organized forum megathread experience

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Doesn't really solve the AI scraping or the silo problem and as Codeberg found out recently, solving the AI scraping DDOS is never ending

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Let them scrape. AI as it currently is, is still autocomplete with extra steps, and still prone to hallucination. As it is it will be usable to make cheap, passable content, but not hit those moments of inspiration of human art (yet -- there are real AI groups looking to make AGI)

It is a bubble which will pop and AI will be seen as a tool (a resource-costly tool) that requires its own set of experts independent from the experts that use ACAD or write editorial copy or do investigative work. Id est, it's not the replacement of employees that boards of directors want it to be.

And AGI is centuries from being efficient enough that you can make Rosie the Robot who cleans your house and makes a good upside-down pineapple cake.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.

Abolish intellectual property

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 219 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Discord is one of the greedy AI companies training on your data

Yeah. The left path is the way.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that's why ketchup makes an excellent fuel additive.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago

Yeah. The vinegar is rich in hydrocarbons, which improve the fuel/air ratio during combustion whilst also keeping the engine smelling nice.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 1 day ago
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.

You'll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

IDGAF about LLM bots scraping public forums, they are public and available to anyone. I do mind them scraping shadow libraries, and training on copywritten material, which they should not do

[–] Wawe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

LLM bots are scraping so much that increases costs of maintaing forums and sometimes even ddosin them for example Codeberg.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Public and copyrighted are not mutually exclusive.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

also “public for actual people who support my forum business model” is not the same as “public for AI scrapers who detract from my business model.”

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago

Public is public, tho.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I'm going to share my information and knowledge publicly on an Internet site, I'd like everyone to have fair and open access to it, not at the whims of a multinational corp to gatekeep for me. So the fact that AI can access it too doesn't discourage me.

You have information from me because I choose to share it, not because a site has demanded I give it up without a clear benefit to me in return.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think there's a lot of solid arguments against letting AI steal everything, but with the scraping there's an even more immediate problem. They don't rate limit or do it in an intelligent method. It becomes a full blown ddos that has take down entire sites and slowed many more to the point of near uselessness.

They're in a very literal sense crashing large chunks of the Internet and causing havoc which costs very real money to fix, either by upping server resources or installing AI scraping mitigation resources so that every still has access to the free information you mention.

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[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

As someone who is enthusiastic about old cars the amount of knowledge that disappeared when forums got killed by fb is immeasurable. At least A.I might preserve some knowledge.

When people die they take their knowledge with them if nobody writes it down and maintains it.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (13 children)

At least A.I might preserve some knowledge.

Big oof when you realize that literally nothing an AI tells you can be trusted, and you still have to find a proper source for it.

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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This implies Discord will not use messages sent to train AI.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also implies that AI companies have not already setup bots to join and scrape whatever data they can from public discord channels.

Sure it might be against the discord TOS, but that isn't going to stop them.

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Porque no los dos?

Discord is targeting an IPO by end of year. I doubt the AI bubble bursts by then.

Anyone wanna bet against their valuation being based on AI training data value?

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.

Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)

Now there's easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs....

The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee

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