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The three state killings came just two days after the Democrats’ sweeping victory in the November 3 midterm elections, which constituted a stunning repudiation of Trump’s policies on social inequality, war, the assault on immigrants and attacks on democratic rights. Yet a wide internet search turns up not a single comment from any Democrat on Thursday’s three executions.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 13 points 19 hours ago

The opposition party won an election and all the problems in the entire country didn't just go away overnight?

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago

I'm against the death penalty, but this aricle is pure bullshit. It's trying to create division, to weaken the Democrats.

WHAT ABOUT REPUBLICANS IN REPUBLICAN STATES???

This gives them a complete fucking pass.

OP should be ashamed of posting this.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago

New headline that's more accurate.

3 executions in a single day—in Indiana, Alabama and Florida—as journalists remain silent

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the same day as the three executions, California Governor Gavin Newsom, widely seen as a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2028, moved to commute the death sentences of all 548 people on the state’s death row to life without parole.

It's hard to reconcile this sentence with the thesis of the article. I guess the title "Democrats are doing something about capital punishment where they have power and not where they don't" isn't as compelling. Gov. Newsom is no progressive, he's a generic liberal and conventional Democrat. I would say that commuting those sentences was a clear statement of where Democrats are on the issue.

Besides, the pigs execute three Americans every day. I would argue that the people getting executed without due process should be the priority. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We have to acknowledge the elephant in the room, that just like the Green Party (Jill Stein, Sinema), the Socialist movement is ~~often~~ sometimes (and mostly online) used by far-right extremist factions to drive a wedge within the Democratic coalition and dissuade people from voting in their own interest.

Like, I totally get wanting to move Democrats left. Even I said that Democratic Primaries begin the day after the midterms and the purity tests should come on issues of wealth tax, medicare for all, holding the Trump regime accountable, distancing from Israel, etc.. But this issue? This is manufacturing division when there isn't fucking any.

[–] Sackett@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never forget the lessons from the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

"In one document, SCL said that encouraging people "not to vote" might be more effective than trying to motivate swing voters.

Describing its work in a Nigerian election, SCL Global said it had advised that "rather than trying to motivate swing voters to vote for our clients, a more effective strategy might be to persuade opposition voters not to vote at all"." (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43581892)

"According to a brochure from SCL obtained by the BBC, SCL claims that it helped a candidate’s campaign by painting graffiti around the island made to look like it “ostensibly came from the youth,” which allowed SCL’s client to adopt policies and “claim credit for listening to a ‘united youth.’ ”" (https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/cambridge-analyticas-work-in-the-caribbean-was-pretty-shady.html)

Now, can you think of a loose knit group of people, on lemmy and other websites, who talk and act like "the youths", and try to convince people that actual activism is staying home? That true leftism is bending the knee?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Thank you for reminding me of this; saving for future reference. Will be more relevant the closer 2028 comes.

I remember seeing that Israel quintupled its online troll farm budget back in July and within a month, operations had clearly spun-up online. That's not to mention disinfo groups from China, India, and Russia...

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

California spoke up.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean...

It's a state issue, and those are all red states...

Dems have no influence on state elections unless it's a Dem governor or they have the votes to federally outlaw state executions. Which we will in January.

But if the author thinks we can discuss everything that's fucked up about America, they're fucking stupid.

We're in triage mode as a country, and in triage you focus on what helps the most people, because time is of the essence. Not everything can be the priority, and if you try to address everything at once, you never get anything done.

Start with what helps the most, and keep fixing shit for as long as you can.

Edit:

To clarify, think of what the number is of people who died yesterday due to lack of resources like healthcare/food/housing.

Priorities.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's really not possible to equate a death to a killing, or a killing to an execution. That is a very narrow idea.

And you can and should speak up on every issue, yes. It is a politicians job and duty.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

They can't solve every issue all at once. Personally, I'm against the death penalty. But I'm more concerned about innocent people dying of starvation or lack of healthcare than about people who have been convicted of murder being executed. Again, I don't want people executed, but most of them weren't innocent.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So you don't think our health insurance system equates to murder? Or at least intentionally killing?

You don't think the people letting the poor children starve are murderers?

I guess we just disagree homes.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You mean, you disagree with the strawman you just created?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It’s really not possible to equate a death to a killing, or a killing to an execution.

Do you think someone being killed by our healthcare system to maximize profit a "death" or a "killing".

You said they're different, I'm asking where your personal line is.

No one else can answer that question about your personal line.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just wish that for onnce we could be in a spot to improve things rather than workimg to unbreak the shit the latest R admin stuck us with...

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

We'll be waiting till the heat death of the universe for that to happen.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

What can they do but say "booooh" in red states. Weird title.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

The reality is that Obama had complete control of both Houses and barely managed to get the ACA passed.

At this point, the Dems are weaker when Obama was in control.

The Right's best tool is to overinflate people's expectations, and then convince them the failure was 100% the Democrats and not GOP obstruction.

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Such an image shouldnt even be feasible in what we call today's "civilised" society. There is so many things wrong with it - banning it would be the least they could do.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

I fully agree, but unfortunately the 'official' number of executions have even increased in 2025, according to Amnesty International:

The number of executing countries at 17 is two higher than the record-low of 15 set in 2024. Four countries (Japan, South Sudan, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates) resumed executions after a hiatus, while two countries (Oman, Syria) which carried out executions in 2024 did not in 2025. Of note, the United States was the only nation to execute people in the Americas for the 17th consecutive year.

[However], as in previous years, the 2025 execution total does not include the thousands of executions estimated to be carried out annually in China, regarded as the world’s leading executioner. Both China and Vietnam classify data on the death penalty as a state secret. Restrictive state practices in North Korea, Laos, and Belarus also result in little to no information being available for those countries.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Banning it and doing nothing else wouldn't be a mercy...

Our entire prison system is systemic torture, and not even effective at reforming prisoners or deterring others from committing crimes later.

That kind of reform has and will continue to be a part of the Dem platform, and without neoliberals running shit we can actually get some done.

The existing system just makes criminals worse and then releases them with less options then they had before.

There's no reason to make a huge issue about just this slice of the pie, when it can just be listed as a line item in a full justice system reform bill that has an even better chance of passing.

We don't have to waste time fixing things one at a time, that entire method was just bullshit neoliberals did to slow progress.

Progress can be a fucking bulldozer. It needs to be.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Not that I wouldn't be fine with seeing capital punishment abolished (as statistically shown by physical evidence-based exonerations, about 3-4% of convicted murderers are actually not guilty, so we really can't be killing anyone as punishment with that kind of conviction error rate).

But there are several dozen other issues that are higher up on the Dems priority list to fix after the power shift, simply because they impact far many more people.

“Against the death penalty” isn’t a position I’d associate with the Democrats, let alone something they’d be able to overturn so soon after gaining a foothold in Congress.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As long as conservatives continue to live, they will continue to oppress and kill everyone around them.