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EDIT 4: I almost gave up on finding the "holy grail" for my use-case. Right price, right specs, etc., and while it's not perfect, I think I found a solid balance for all. Despite most of the reviews being for a free product, they were well written enough to goad me to purchase. I ended up with the Morefine M9S N305 Mini PC. I grabbed the variant that was still 16GB DDR5, but skimped out of the m.2 size at 256 vs 512. I don't think I'll need 512GB for my application. I also went with an older but more powerful Alder Lake i3 n305 vs the flooded market of Twin Lake n150 procs. I would like to think the extra headroom and core count will prove useful with running 3+ VMs. In the meantime, I've been slowly tinkering with a VM of Proxmox (VMception?) so see how i performs. I've not gotten far with it yet :P

EDIT 3: And Amazon decided to wait until the last minute to cancel my order as it was OOS. Would've been nice if they told me sooner. The unit is now also $60 more than before. GREAT.

EDIT 2: I’ve chosen the Beelink EQ14. It had the best “last-gen” specs, lowest price, and better hardware (BT 5.2 vs Pulcro’s 4.2, as well as Wifi6 vs Wifi5). I also ruled out the Morefine because all of its reviews were paid, not very reassuring imho.

EDIT: Holy shit, was not expecting so much support for my inquiry. Thank you all for the bevy of ideas and solutions. I think I'm still gonna go for the Intel 12th Gen+ NUC style, although some of your setups seriously made me quite jelly. Maybe I'll get there one of these days. I'll update this when I finally lock down my purchase :)

Hey all, lurker for a bit, but just joined because I've started my journey of self hosting the simple stuff (or at least I hope it's simple). For the past couple years I've been using a RPi Zero W for PiHole, and more recently go into Jellyfin and Home Assistant, using an RPi4 and an RPi3+ respectively. I've also got a hand-me-down Synology ds214j NAS with 2x8TB in ~~RAID0~~ RAID1, which is about half full atm. I'm not expecting to expand that storage anytime soon, so I've pivoted to an attempt at combining the 3 Pis above into one NUC/SFF/etc device with a roughly similar power draw. Also looking at re-jumping back into 3D printing using OctoPrint.

I've looked briefly at jumping to a Pi5, but that led me down the rabbit hole with Jeff Geerling's article/video on Pi vs. NUC. I've continued to putter around looking at NUCs in the ~$200 range. Hoping to stick with MinisForum, GMKTek, or Beelink if possible, but only because... it's all I know. I'd like to also tinker deeper with Linux flavors, as I'm a noob at best with it but want to at least have some growing knowledge, as I've primarily been a Windows gamer and use Apple at the office almost exclusively. I'd like to try staying with AMD as I've slowly moved over from the "dark side" (don't hurt me) that is Intel and Nvidia.

Last nugget is that I've never tinkered with Docker, as it seems that may be the best route to host all these apps on one contiguous installation. I've new-ish to VMs too, so anything "Baby's First VM" would be nice.

I know I made a giant pile of wants/needs, so if there's no magical unicorn, I'm cool with other ideas. Thanks in advance, and I'm really keen on seeing what options I have.

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Get a N100/N150 system with 12GB+ RAM for ~150 €/$. Alternatively check for one with replaceable RAM.

To get experience with Linux you can install VirtualBox on Windows and set up some Linux virtual machines. It's easier than most people think.

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks! Yeah I'm thinking I should get a higher RAM setup just for flexibility's sake and futureproofing so some extent. 16GB was my bare minimum, but I'm looking at some configs with 32GB and they aren't too much pricier. The soldered RAM is def iffy, as I like having the options to improve a build without too much headache, or no solid upgrade path whatsoever.

As for the Linux stuff, I've dabbled in it, and currently run ZorinOS on an old Thinkpad. It's not heavily used, but it's similar enough to Windows (as are many flavors), that the difficulty curve for me boils down to terminal stuff. I jump between Powershell, MacOS Terminal, and this on a roughly weekly basis, but by no means am I a scholar :P

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I just run it all on a retired laptop. Low power, quiet, plenty of performance. With a NAS next to it, even storage is no issue.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I got an old Lenovo P330 Xeon with 64 G of ECC ram. I recently checked its power usage for another poster asking the same thing. I was shocked to see it only use 15Watts while streaming 4k hevc.

For server use, ECC is important because it's going to be on 24/7 for years at a time.

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh wow. Yeah, I have an old server hand-me-down from a friend, and his first red flag with it was it was gonna pull down $50 more power monthly 0_o. I may look into this. I have a few old cases lying about, but I was looking from in the super small form factor as I could nestle it in my network cabinet.

[–] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perhaps not the size you're after, but I have a HP Z1 G5, i9-9900, 5 SSD, 3 HDD, and that can idle as low as 45W and costs me £60/yr in electric. I managed to pick it up off eBay for only £260 (discounted from £350; if you keep an eye on certain things, sellers drop prices to rid of their gear).

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, definitely beyond my needs. I actually have a hand-me-down server a friend gifted me, and that is well beyond what I need, plus power costs in the $50+/mo realm. Certainly not a bad price for that type of performance. Sure, it would be cool to have a centralized system that can do everything, but outside of my initial thoughts of using this setup for 4-5 low-power things, the cost is too great to consider. Thanks for your input nonetheless!

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It depends on how old. My Xeons are e-2224G. They're 14nm coffee lake. They are rated at 71Watts but as I said only use 15w streaming 4k.

They're $190 on eBay with 16gb ram and 256 GB SSD.

A 16 GB Pi5 is $130 just for the motherboard. You still need storage, case and power supply.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For business, ECC is definitely required. I really don't see it needed for home use.

I've never run it for home boxes - I've had a Windows domain at home since the 90's using desktop hardware and it's as stable as any SMB I've seen running on enterprise-grade hardware.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I switched to ECC only for my home server over 10 years ago after a silent ram error corrupted some data on my raid drives. I didn't realize there was a problem until I went to look at an old photo and it was corrupted.

"8 percent of the DIMMs saw correctable error per year"

And this was from 20 years ago when memory density was much less so the chance of an error was lower.

https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/sigmetrics09.pdf

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[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was hosting most of my Docker stuff on my Synology DS920+, use Docker in a Pi 4B for AdGuard Home and WireGuard, and found myself wanting to use Home Assistant.

Can't use Docker for HA if you want HACS (addons) and Synology decided to kill USB drivers some time back, so looked around for options. Considered a Nabu Casa Yellow with a CM5 compute module (for Voice PE) and its price was more than a GMKtek N150 NUC, which has far higher specs and enough headroom for other things. So I got the NUC.

First thing I did was nuke Windows and replaced it with Proxmox, then installed Home Assistant OS (HAOS) as a VM in it. Plenty of headroom left, so now it's also got a Linux VM, a few LXCs, etc. (The Proxmox Helper Scripts site makes it very easy).

Could easily install AGH or PiHole and a bunch of other things on it. Think it's the best bang for buck thing I've bought in years.

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah the HA Docker ish is the one thing I got concerned about, as I already needed to install HACS to integrate my Govee lights into it. For now, I'm also looking at the HA Voice Preview for voice integration, as I'm sick of having my shitty Google Homes all around unable to handle simple requests (like failing to turn on/off lights).

As much as I want to nuke Windows on my main rig, I try to play a lot of VR (especially heavily modded SkyrimVR), and after getting those games tweaked just right, it'd be quite the hit to me if I had to redo all of that again.

Genuinely interested in ProxMox tho, as if I can run all systems in their individual containers (a la Docker w/o the HACS issue) on one main device with a low power overhead, I'm all ears.

The NUC def seems like the best option, although from an earlier replay of mine, I'm still looking into seeing how far I can take the Pi4. MicroSD cards are still far less pricey than a new system after all.

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I still use all 3, though I'm slowly moving CPU intensive containers to the NUC. The Pi is untouched so far, partly because having edge services there will make it easier of I decide to implement a DMZ.

The NUC+Proxmox is a great combination. Bit of a learning curve (eg. as with Docker, you need to pass devices in Proxmox and then to the container; same with CIFS shares), but there are lots of resources out there. I have no regrets going this route, and it had low power consumption.

On Windows thing, I was specifically referring to the server OS as the NUC came with Win11. Do whatever works for your desktop/gaming setup.

Though I also switched that to Linux (EndeavourOS, though there are other game-friendly options) a couple of years ago, and its worked out great. Guild Wars 2 was my most modded Windows game, and I can run all except one of the Windows-based addons I want for it. Setting it all up the first time is a ball ache (as it was with Windows, but that was done over time 🤷‍♂️). 😊

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EDIT: I've chosen the Beelink EQ14. It had the best "last-gen" specs, lowest price, and better hardware (BT 5.2 vs Pulcro's 4.2, as well as Wifi6 vs Wifi5). I also ruled out the Morefine because all of its reviews were paid, not very reassuring imho.

Alright, not sure how many will circle back, but I've narrowed down my choices, as they hit my current thresholds - N150 or equivalent/greater, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe, and Dual LAN connection.

1st place - Morefine M9S - This caught my eye, as although because to me it's a no-name brand, it has a beefiest specs still well within my price range ($270-ish)

2nd place - Pulcro.io TurnKey Two - These guys I just found, and they seem the most... professional? Same specs as the two below.

3rd place - BeeLink EQ14 - Weird that link has it as an N100, clearly shows N150 on the page...

Thoughts?

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