I stopped using Spotify years ago and every time I hear about it I only get my decision further reinforced. What an absolutely cancerous company.
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Zawinski's law: Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot expand are replaced by ones which can.
This is just the modern equivalent: Intra-site messaging.
Just finished a Tidal trial and really liked it. Then I found out it's owned by Block who owns Square. Jack Dorsey is CEO of Block.
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Fuck Spotify. Pay better royalties
The post I was on 5 seconds ago was about imugur and how people where confused when they added posts and comments to the image hosting site. Everyone wants a poece of the social media pie...but we need the infrastructure, the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
...the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
It's never free. The instance you're using isn't free; it's paid for by donations. ISPs and server hosts don't just give bandwidth out of charity or for the public good. One way or another, these for-profit companies are getting their pound of flesh, typically by selling targeted ad space.
The fact that these companies are adding chat features means they're now going to try mining conversations for additional consumer profile data points, which they can then sell to advertisers.
This new change is gross, and I hope nobody uses it.
Which they can sell to ~~advertisers~~ LLM and AI companies.
It's not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There's no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.
The main problem is that we ran out, there's no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don't create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It's a new source of data to sell to data brokers.
Barf. I try hard not to think about it, since it's shoved in our faces at every turn, but you're absolutely right that our data is going to these AI corpos.
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No.
On another note: Apple Music migration tool will finally help Spotify users switch
Not saying it’s the best alternative, but at least there’s one escape route being built.
Hot take: buy your music instead—direct from the artist whenever possible, or start building your collection from whatever you can find at a thrift store.
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finally a discord alternative
I noped the hell out of Spotify when I found out it was hosting the Joe Rogan podcast. It's only enshittified even more since. And now this.
Tidal is much better anyway
Qobuz too. High-res audio, full CD booklets, metadata with full credits, pays the artists more, European but not run by Daniel Ek.
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There's no room for growth! What are we going to do about it? IDK, so random shit that won't get adopted to placate the VCs? Give that man a raise! (TGIF gift cards only. We are going to be hemorrhaging cash soon).