for laptops, either get last or even further generation 8 core cpu and 5070/4070, or be happy with AI 300 series igpu. Buy more memory instead. You might one day want local AI/LLMs.
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Problem is almost no laptop has Strix Halo. Not even the Frameworks.
And rumors are its successor APU may be much better, so the investment could be, err, questionable.
Still waaay too expensive :(
FFS I was just about to buy myself one and now I'm obviously gonna have to wait until November
Oh, wait, I can just upgrade it. Nbd.
OK I’m a bit confused. I have a Framework 16” that I bought earlier this year, without the GPU extension bay. I don’t care that much about the expansion bay as without it, the laptop is already huge. I have an eGPU to play on when I need it.
What upgrade options does this announcement offer to me?
I’m dissatisfied with:
- the webcam
- screen colors / brightness
- key stability on the keyboard (the keys are a bit wobbly)
- speaker sound quality (I’m not expecting the best, but something better than what it shipped with)
They are announcing a new webcam, will it be backwards compatible ?
Otherwise I’m really happy with it, I absolutely love the modular I/O, being able to swap which side the audio jack is is amazing. happy to support this endeavor of repairability
There's new webcam, theres also an "empty" extension thing where you can put 2 nvme SSDs in place of the GPU.
They made a new webcam , but im not sure if they shipped recent models of the 16 with the new webcam or if you have to buy the new module :/
At least there's an option at all.
That's exactly why I like framework laptops.
So I'm going to be skeptical here. I had an older 9xx MSI laptop that was touted as replaceable and "upgradable" GPU for the next generation at the time.
That ended up as a big ol' whoops, because replacement screwed with thermals and found that you couldn't actually upgrade because of all kinds of reasons and resulted in a class action suit.
Just color me skeptical on these types of things.
Since the cooling system is self contained in the module, you shouldn't have that issue.
The new GPU also has the same 100w tdp as the last one
Framework has been pretty consistent on upgradability. You can even put the newest MOBOs/CPUs in the oldest laptops since they kept the formfactor identical. They sell such mobos on their website.
GPUs a bit of a different monster since there no such thing as a standard socket, you're bound by the manufacturer spec for pin in/out.
And that was the case with MSI laptop and Nvidia partnership when Nvidia went full Darth Vader and changed the terms of the deal.
I mean more power to them if they can actually deliver actual modules that can be upgraded and if I can actually see a generation or two of this actually working, I'll be on board but once bitten, can't fool me again for the time being.
The standard is PCI-e, and it is interchangeable. This is the second dedicated video card you can get in a Framework laptop, and they can be swapped out with each other. The other video card is even an AMD Radeon.
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damn son, those lappies aint cheap
yeah, at these prices makes more sense to just buy a new laptop in a couple years... o well.
I’d prefer an AMD 9000 series because I refuse to support Nvidia, but the upgradability is still an amazing achievement. I’m glad to see Framework delivering.
It could help if AMD still manufactured discrete mobile GPUs.
Their website still lists RX 7000M & S series, but I don't know of a single *other *laptop brand that currently offers them. There is certainly is no hint of a 9000 series mobile GPU, which is a shame. I probably won't buy another laptop until AMD is back in the mobile GPU game. Not that they're perfect, but they are significantly less evil than NVidia.
Most people don't need them. The gaming and workstation laptop market is smaller than ever. The integrated graphics has been "good enough" for a while now.
Especially since the Steam Deck and derivatives mostly killed the gaming laptop niche market.
High end gaming laptops needed desktop GPUs anyway, because at least for nVidia, once you get past the **60 range, the mobile version starts getting very small jumps in performance compared to the desktop.
At some point it's cheaper to get a gaming desktop and a cheap laptop lol
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Now if only Framework did that with AMD & Intel GPUs, then we'd all be balling.
Also please make it available in the East
They've had AMD for a few years now. No Intel one, but they do sell empty GPU module shells, so maybe someone could cut down a desktop Intel card to fit in one?
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