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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think esports are real sports not because I think video games are as meaningful as physical sports, but because I think physical sports are as meaningless as video games. It's all just playing with toys.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to sink a few more hours into that new Katamari hotness.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

If video games had been invented before football, parents would be horrified that people were actually hitting each other for sport.

[–] Stache_@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I did a paper on this in college and if the Olympic committee deems chess as a “mental sport” then I sure and shit think esports can be considered a real sport too

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok then mental sports need to have their own separate Olympics.

Because Olympics originated as a competitive showcase of the world's peak physical prowess.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a lot of grey area in that distinction though. There's a handful of Olympic sports that showcase fine motor control in ways that aren't that different from esports. Fencing and shooting are in the same realm as an RTS or FPS.

[–] Cliff@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I agree with you on shooting. But fencing seems to be quite physical.

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[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

(tongue-in-cheeck devil's advocate)

And everyone knows the best way to do things is never change them. Like music, and bigoted voting rights.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If chess can be a mental sport there's no way in hell that Starcraft isn't. The mindgames and insane amount of instant control and choice making is crazy. Sure professional chess players attempt to go as quickly as possible but they could take their time if they wanted in Starcraft a fraction of a second can be the difference between winning or losing in a battle that you are controlling hundreds of variables

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My name is not Micheal 🤔

[–] exu@feditown.com 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Hello everyone. Although I prefer Mike, my given name is Michael.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It would be weird if it were, I've never met a Micheal before.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Esports ruined gaming, change my mind (impossible)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 27 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'll bite. If you want to pick a singular thing to point at and say it's ruined gaming you should be more upset about micro transactions, especially those in mobile gaming. We live in an era where so many people have a device that is physically more capable than the handheld gaming devices of the past but the entire mobile gaming market is just slop meant to be addictive and extract as much money from you as possible. Imagine a world where Nintendo was making mainline Pokémon games for phones. What if X, Y, Sun, and Moon weren't made for the 3ds but for phones (or both).

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Microtransactions ruined gaming, too. :P

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Dark patterns too.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly, in a way, (ubiquitous fast) internet ruined gaming. When you had to buy physical disks, there was no way to continuously monetize a game. Studios had to make new good games and they did.

Back then, there were awesome games for phones as well. I still have an old phone with just to keep galaxy on fire 2. N.O.V.A. 2 was basically Halo game on phones. Before that, there was awesome java games for dumb phones.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can argue that enabled bad practices but it also enabled many good things in gaming.

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

You provide physical inputs, which are sensitive to timing and agility, to a rule-based competition. It's at least as much a sport as golf or curling or bowling. And I say that as someone who doesn't find eSports particularly compelling. It requires a sophisticated technal infrastructure and doesn't require superhuman levels of strength or endurance (though the latter in particular could be helpful), but those are merely "sliders on the configuration screen" for whether a certain sport is to your interest.

Michael probably agrees.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh. Not much a part of my identity these days, but in a yes/no sense, yeah I guess so, LOL. Of course, these days most gym bros are doing some gaming too.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I meant based on the limited data we have in the comic. If you believe gamings a sport: gamer, I'd not: not a gamer if Michael: Michael

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

LOL, are you trying to keep me from derailing a shitpost thread where I'm rehashing the boring online debate that inspired it! How dare you!!!!! What are you? Some kind of Michael?

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!!

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Are they being targeted?

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[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My name is also Michael. Hi Michael. Nice name.

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[–] Chiarottide@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If chess is part of the olympics then videogames should be too

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Olympics shouldn't exist as they are now in the first place.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It should go back to the original 5 or 7 events. Including the running in hoplite armour, and triple jumps with weights.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Gotta be wearing a kynodesme to be modest.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That should just go without saying. No female athletes, just oiled up twinks and gym bros frolicking in a field naked for weeks. /S

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And winners from Athens get free dinners for life

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

My rule for considering it a sport is: anyone should be able to play it if they have everything needed. It's impossible to be banned from a sport (banned from tournaments is not the same thing) - if you want to play, you play. If you want to make custom rules just for you and your friends, you make them and then play. Nobody can own the rights to a sport (again, not the same as that sport's tournament). No company can ever stop others from making money with a specific sport.

If you have any kind of ball you can play soccer. If you have anything that can represent chess pieces, you can play chess. If you have a kart you can have a race...

So can videogames be considered sport? Perhaps some can, but anything that requires access to a specific company's private servers is out of the question. I'm not even gonna argue that the game should be open source, but at the very least it should have a way for anyone to spin up their own server for it.

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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

THE CHOSEN ONE

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Gymer Bro Michael

[–] CelloMike@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeahhhh let's go Most Common Boy's Name in the Year I Was Born 🤘

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

They would be sport if they were something like Chessboxing.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If tennis and riding a bicycle are sports then so is gaming.

So they are not sports

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Im cool with tennis and cycling.

Darts pisses me off.

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