MisterFrog

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[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever heard sarcasm used when irony is appropriate. Because "ironically" seems to be taking over (for Americans, not in Australia)

"That's so sarcastic" referring to irony isn't a thing. Or at least, I've neve heard it.

"the use of words that are the opposite of what you mean" bad Cambridge, bad! That's sarcasm.

Could be my cultural context, and my bias because I constantly hear Americans misusing 'ironic'.

Don't use it differently without providing a replacement please and thank you!

Wikipedia gets it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony "Irony is a juxtaposition of what, on the surface, appears to be the case with what is actually or expected to be the case"

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My understanding, from how people use it here is that irony is a situation which is a contrast between the expected/intended and actual outcome.

It's ironic when a fire station burns down

This definition is truly upsetting: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

Americans, no. Bad Americans.

This definition is correct (until we come up with a good substitute, FFS America): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

Glad Wikipedia agrees with me on this one haha We'll at least the introductory definition.

Edit: to answer your question. I dunno. I just think this form of "ironic" just didn't take off in Australia.

Mostly because we already have words for what Americans use it for. And don't have words to replace irony.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh interesting, I hadn't noticed that!

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The American use "ironically" is probably the only difference between our dialects that I'll stand firm on.

My friends, we already have a use for the word, and it's not this!

I'm all about linguistic innovation, but using "unironically" in place of "seriously" and "ironically" in place of "sarcastically"/”not seriously" is not happy times for me.

Unless you give me a new word for irony.

I quite like y'all, I use that all the time, not against Americanisms in general, just this one.

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago

I feel upset, only because they're even more car-centric than we are.

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Agree with you on all of it, but the office ribbon I think is actually not bad design. Especially if you use alt shortcuts, you can get pretty quick at accessing a bunch of options via the keyboard.

The little stupid arrow to show more options notwithstanding.

Here's a very entertaining video on how bad ribbons can be: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dKx1wnXClcI

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)