yozul

We don't want coffee that hot. That's the fucking lie, stooge. McDonald's own market research shows that the overwhelming majority of their customers drink their coffee immediately in their car. Serving it burnt to crap and too hot to drink quickly is actively terrible for the vast majority of their customers, which is why even McDonald's doesn't actually serve coffee that hot anymore. They stopped doing that over a decade ago.

Do you really expect me to believe some corporate ass-kisser that makes lawyer jokes like they think they're being insightful actually knows anything about doing a honest days work. We don't have time to casually sit around the office sipping coffee all day. We have to slam that shit and get to work, yuppie.

You don't have to give up your ability to defend yourself in the world that actually exists to fight for a better one. That's childish thinking.

Oh goodie, so now we've reached the point where you're trying to flood the argument with so much meaningless gibberish that you hope it'll fool someone into thinking that you're making point somewhere in that mess. I don't care that you have creamer in your coffee, dude. I don't really even care that you think a meat thermometer can accurately measure the temperature of liquids. Sure, you can take a tiny sip of 185° coffee. Whatever.

The facts of the matter are that 185° is hotter than any other chain serves their coffee, they received multiple health code violations for it, serving it at even slightly lower temperatures dramatically reduces the possibility of getting severe burns, McDonald's knew all this, lied about why they were doing it, ordered their employees to keep getting health code violations anyway, settled with other people out of court before this case for upwards of $500,000 because it was such a small expense for them, only offered this lady $800 for some bizarre reason, the judge actually reduced the settlement to $640,000 before it was actually paid out, and she ended up spending all that money on a live in nurse because she was in so much pain and barely capable of walking for the rest of her life. We do not base our regulations on the assumption that no one will spill any coffee ever. That is an insane thing to assume.

Have fun giving up your only defense against corporate negligence though. I'm sure that could never possibly backfire.

You have to boil water to make coffee. You don't have to serve it still boiling. That is, again, actually against the law to do the way they did it. They were already in trouble for it before they gave that lady third degree burns. They had to go out of their way to set their warmer to boiling, because it's McDonald's. They don't actually make every cup of coffee custom for you. It just comes out of warmer that they get to set the temperature of, and setting that to be too hot to drink would be stupid even if it didn't burn the crap out of the coffee and leave it tasting like charcoal. They had to knowingly and intentionally break the law to serve coffee that hot. You just got played by your corporate overlords trying to pretend they're the victims.

No, he's right, that's clearly on the flap on the lid that gets folded inside the box. You can only read that while the box is open.

Coffee isn't supposed to be served hot enough to give third degree burns causing hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills. That's actually illegal. When the health department gives several warnings and a senior corporate executive orders employees to disobey the law, that makes judges very, very grumpy. Lawsuits are a stupid system, but they literally the only system we have for legally fighting back against corporations. There is nothing else you can do if they wrong you. Spreading the idea that you shouldn't sue is only taking away your only method of defending yourself within the law. You are being a corporate shill right now.