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Surely you understand that through violence the most violent people will rise to power Thats what happened in russia that became the ussr, china that became the ccp…
Do you want the most violent in power?
How exactly do you think the USA was formed?
No the aristocrats were far more violent.
two bad examples. The populations of Russia and China were certainly better off after violent revolution. And of course, things got violent in 1776.
Objectively untrue for china from every perspective and is only briefly kinda true for russia; as serfs were freed but after Stalins takeover as the lands were took back and people were legally required to work
And the 1776 revolution would be not comparable in any way for the violence OP called for as the upper class led that revolution!
Maybe you should learn what the word "objectively" means, dumbass
So you think that revolutions are only acceptable when the rich do it? The industrialization of Russia and China were probably the largest movement of impoverished people to relative stability in human history.
No, the us revolution resulted in much much different issues many persisting to this day like the inherent undemocratic system your lot clings to! But the power was distributed to the point where not one person could grab for it. Not that some didn’t want to have George Washington as a king…
Do you guys just make semi random statements? Industrialization did not raise Russian living standard at all! In the short term it decreased it and in the long term, compared to say Taiwan, progressed incomparably worse
It must be so easy being an anti communist, you can just make up whatever completely baseless claims you like and apparently expect people to believe them