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This is the, “If I don’t do it, someone else will,” argument. Which is true.
There is always all least one other ass hole out there.
Exactly why no social ism works. Capitalism, communism, Georgism, liberalism, Marxism, anarchism, socialism. They're mostly all good on paper but awful when put into effect because they don't factor human nature. So long as there is the same trait within that led to our wild success as species number 1, we can never have good ideas play out how they were thought to. Instead we have we have those always looking for advantage to be number 1 of the number 1s. Psychopaths love power and personal security.
Arthur C. Clarke said something along the lines of “communism could’ve worked if only they had microchips” meaning that communism had problems with humans. An algorithmic socialism that requires everything to be fair is the only way to do it.
Wouldn't surprise me if that is how future civilizations (assuming we live that long) handle their administration. Laws are written algorithmically, almost like computer code, and simply translated for laymen to interpret. Maybe with an integrated parser service available to everyone that is capable of answering queries based on the strict programmed definitions it references.
This still invites the very likely possibility of one's interpretation of a law differing from the intent, but that is already the case today, with the bigger problem being that there are often major disagreements at an institutional level where there should ideally be no uncertainty.
the problem will be the implicit biases of the lawmakers
Yep, not sure there will ever be a way around that either. An algorithm could possibly facilitate a more unbiased demographic representation of lawmakers, but that would require an original algorithm to establish those conditions in the first place.
The other factor is changing priorities/needs over time. People in the future could discover more problems that we are oblivious to today, and any algorithmic structure of law would need to be able to be easily amended in order to adapt. How would they prevent opportunists from abusing the amendment process?
At best, we see a streamlining of the court. Laws that are rigidly defined cannot be open to interpretation by any particular judge. But the act of creating laws would still be just as problematic unless we let ChatGPT do it, which invites the possibility of adding cyanide to public drinking water supplies because it's better for the environment.
Who designs the algorithm?
Extraterrestrial aliens.
Perfect
Elon Musk vibe coding with grok.
Presumably anyone can, and people democratically vote on which algorithm is used. Direct democracy like this has its problems, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the oligarchy/plutocracy that we’re currently dealing with.
Would still need to figure out a solution for tyranny of the majority, though. Left unchecked, a majority populace can easily vote their way towards being a strict ethnostate.
For sure, though the tyranny of the majority is still strictly better than the tyranny of the minority, which we currently are dealing with.
Someone with a provable, undeniable, zero stakes in the outcome of publishing said algorithm, while being of such moral fortitude as to be un-corruptable. IMO, if you find such a person, you're probably better off just putting them in charge.
Best bet is to raise the bar on any coordinated attempt to sabotage things. Multiple algorithms must be made by distinct parties, and the submissions compared against one another, and somehow averaged out (e.g. multiple running algorithms that vote amongst themselves) so that the only way to game the system is a very large and unlikely conspiracy.
I will
I'll only skim a little off the top, promise
Just fractions of a socialism on every socialism. It adds up. I saw it in a movie.
Communism is the perfect form of government when you have essentially infinite resources to the point where personal wealth is meaningless and a society that functions as a perfect meritocracy.