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That is such a dumb clickbait title made to be fueled by emotions.
Who are those folks that can't be convinced? Because it sure as hell aren't the businesses who are moving all their Windows 10 PCs over to Windows 11.
Do they mean the consumer users? The ones who would still be on Windows XP if it weren't for Microsoft forcing their updates? Who only update when they get a new computer and postpone every update because they don't care about being on an insecure OS?
The ones who could be convinced already are on Windows 11. The rest Microsoft doesn't care about. Yes, this includes Linux users.
Well, we are talking about half the active PCs still running Windows 10 instead of Windows 11.
That's a lot more than just the few "I don't care"-people.
Instead it consist mainly of the "I don't have the means" people, that don't have the Hardware required to upgrade and also not the money to quickly change that.
Microsoft screwed up here. There simple was no need to demand such harsh hardware requirements and especially no need to enforce them that hard.
I have to firmly disagree - I mean Apple changed their whole cpu setup to force upgrades didn't they...
Also it is over 10 years old, that's a good run. Has nothing to do with tight ass business owners who are turning to AI and using the money there instead has it?
The hardware requirements are not that harsh. People simply believe they are. Intel rested on its laurels for 10 years and then people are like, oh I need a new setup my cpu won't run Win 11!
I bought a used PC specifically to run Windows 11. It had a 6 year old AMD Ryzen CPU which turned out not to be supported so I returned it.
That's worse than Apple. If hardware could run Windows 10 it absolutely could also run Windows 11 if it weren't for completely arbitrary requirements.
Well there is a big difference between switching the CPU architecture altogether and just arbitrarily declaring a slightly older CPU with the exact same instruction set to be "outdated".
Also, the customer profile of Apple users and Windows users is somewhat different. You won't find a lot of Macs at normal peoples homes in e.g. Indonesia...
and? Saying it has the same instruction set shows you actually don't understand what is needed to run win 11. Of course you can force an upgrade as well. But people seems pissed at Microsoft but give Apple a free pass for being far more manipulative, and again Intel here is the reason as they were so shocking for years Apple decided it could and has done a better job!
TPM is not needed either, it's an arbitrary restriction.
I said you can force an upgrade and not need tpm, but you'd like to argue about something that helps security? Really? The x86 instruction set is widely varying, you can run win 11 on older hardware but it doesn't perform well. I guess that is something many don't like but it is the same across the board and also with pretty much any OS. Hating upon Microsoft seems to be a popular thing on the fediverse though, and it is one of the things that ruins what could be a great resource
kde plasma runs better than 11 as it's user interface was not created with web tech.
but my concerns about 11 are rather the further erosion of user privacy, on more fronts than just recall. automatic bitlocker encryption is also not something I can stand behind, several people lost all their data needlessly because of it.
And that would be?
x86 processors are fairly standardized, I don't see anything that could be the reason for such exclusions..?
The upcoming macOS Tahoe still supports some Intel Macs from 2019.
Win 10 launched in 2015, and your point is? 6 years v 10... not really comparable is it in any shape, way or form...