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[–] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl -5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (28 children)

I always thought i was left, but seeing how a lot of people on the left gleefully react to someone’s assasination makes me wonder if i’m actually left.

I don’t mourn Charlie Kirk’s passing, i never liked him. But i certainly don’t celebrate his murder either. Anyone who does should be put in a mental asylum as far as i’m concerned. They certainly have mental health problems.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 17 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

If you’re basing whether or not you’re “left” on anecdotal evidence of some leftists celebrating his death, you probably weren’t very left to begin with.

[–] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Fair enough. I suppose i should call myself “center”. Neither left nor right.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I've come to think of myself as trying to be outside of the social constructs that America is currently shedding.

I see society as layered. A social fabric that we weave by acting our beliefs within our communities, which layers atop nature. Upon that we build a structure of law, order, and an artificial economy that we see as beneficial in maintaining a healthy society. It's important that these three layers closely conform to each other, and that the structures at the top remain minimalistic and efficient in their alignment to the fabric itself, which is more organic.

But the structure has become unwieldly, and is being used against us. It confines us. It enslaves us. The vast majority of people are acting out against this, and their actions are colored by their upbringings and beliefs combined with propaganda. Our diversity is being amplified through anger at our situation, the hate of the propaganda (edit: not 'of the propaganda', 'generated from the propaganda' is better), and the greed that has become systemic.

Then there are the people who seek to rule us. To some degree they recognize that they can manipulate a failing system to take absolute control. They've figured out that they can control us by our anger, and turn it into hate and greed. (edit: I should add that even these people are a symptom of the sickness, and while they may seek to perpetuate it, they're not themselves the root cause)

Right, left... it doesn't matter. The whole system is coming down. There's a lot more to that, but as it stands... there's a reason a lot of us feel driven to go live on a mountain top or in the depths of the forest. It's a withdrawal from an unjust system. But we still need the social fabric, it's our substrate that makes us who we are. We need to embrace our communities, locally, and focus on making the lives we want everyone to be able to have as we eventually pull through this period of authoritarian fascism.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

Don't know where you're actually located, but "center" and "moderate" are just smokescreen euphemisms for "right wing without the nads to say so" here in the Amerikkkan lexicon, these days.

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