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I always thought i was left, but seeing how a lot of people on the left gleefully react to someone’s assasination makes me wonder if i’m actually left.
I don’t mourn Charlie Kirk’s passing, i never liked him. But i certainly don’t celebrate his murder either. Anyone who does should be put in a mental asylum as far as i’m concerned. They certainly have mental health problems.
You don't understand why people would celebrate the death of someone that wanted them dead?
If you’re basing whether or not you’re “left” on anecdotal evidence of some leftists celebrating his death, you probably weren’t very left to begin with.
Fair enough. I suppose i should call myself “center”. Neither left nor right.
I've come to think of myself as trying to be outside of the social constructs that America is currently shedding.
I see society as layered. A social fabric that we weave by acting our beliefs within our communities, which layers atop nature. Upon that we build a structure of law, order, and an artificial economy that we see as beneficial in maintaining a healthy society. It's important that these three layers closely conform to each other, and that the structures at the top remain minimalistic and efficient in their alignment to the fabric itself, which is more organic.
But the structure has become unwieldly, and is being used against us. It confines us. It enslaves us. The vast majority of people are acting out against this, and their actions are colored by their upbringings and beliefs combined with propaganda. Our diversity is being amplified through anger at our situation, the hate of the propaganda (edit: not 'of the propaganda', 'generated from the propaganda' is better), and the greed that has become systemic.
Then there are the people who seek to rule us. To some degree they recognize that they can manipulate a failing system to take absolute control. They've figured out that they can control us by our anger, and turn it into hate and greed. (edit: I should add that even these people are a symptom of the sickness, and while they may seek to perpetuate it, they're not themselves the root cause)
Right, left... it doesn't matter. The whole system is coming down. There's a lot more to that, but as it stands... there's a reason a lot of us feel driven to go live on a mountain top or in the depths of the forest. It's a withdrawal from an unjust system. But we still need the social fabric, it's our substrate that makes us who we are. We need to embrace our communities, locally, and focus on making the lives we want everyone to be able to have as we eventually pull through this period of authoritarian fascism.
Don't know where you're actually located, but "center" and "moderate" are just smokescreen euphemisms for "right wing without the nads to say so" here in the Amerikkkan lexicon, these days.
I feel like you but I also feel kirk should be treated a bit by his own preachings. He said empathy is weakness and bad policy and not a virtue. He said gun deaths are worth it for the second amendment. He said families should bring their children to witness executions. All these things he said are embodied in his fate. If anyone ever died in a way that embraces their own words it is him.
What you mentioned is exactly why i didn’t like him. But i also don’t support the death penalty, and i firmly believe in due process. He got the death penalty without a fair trial. For me it’s as simple as that. And that’s not how democracy works in my book.
He was a conservative right wing political activist, but some people are comparing him to Mussolini even. Like WTF! And just because he didn’t believe in empathy doesn’t mean i shouldn’t either.
Fo i think the world is better without certain people? Sure! Do i think assasinating them is the way to go? No.
And yeah, i’m a gay man. I’m well aware of his views about that. I choose to be civilized though.
Yup and I agree with you 100%. There is how I feel about it but I also think about it in terms of his beliefs. They are not mine but its kinda funny because normally one might bring up judging someone by their own standards to be nicer than ones own beliefs might make it out for the person but for him that is certainly not the case.
I always thought i was left, but seeing how a lot of people on the left gleefully react to someone’s assasination makes me wonder if i’m actually left.
I don’t mourn Benito Mussolini's passing, i never liked him. But i certainly don’t celebrate his murder either. Anyone who does should be put in a mental asylum as far as i’m concerned. They certainly have mental health problem
Comparing Charlie Kirk to Mussolini…
Yeah, i stand with my comment. You need better mental health care.
Someone with more time than me could easily do an entertaining mashup of Kirk and Mussolini quotes
How many people did Charlie order to kill? Since when was he the dictator of America? Please do enlighten me, because clearly you know so much more then i do…
Charlie's job was propaganda. He laundered the fascist ideology into mainstream discourse. If my coworker said some of the awful shit Charlie said, I'd just think he was a racist piece of shit, but I wouldn't celebrate his murder (nor would I mourn it). But Charlie had an audience of millions, and was paid handsomely to spread his fascist propaganda. I opened my nicest bottle of scotch when I heard the news.
Then you are just as bad as Charlie was. You just don’t have the same amount of followers.
I don't give a shit what you think of me.
That goes both ways, don’t worry.
That makes you just as bad as Charlie Kirk 🥸
In what world is celebrating someone’s assasination the same as not giving a fuck about someone's opinion?
No wait… don’t answer that. I don’t even care how your weird brain works.
It's the exact same thing, sweaty. All things are the same. Every person is the same. Every opinion is the same. Every death is the same.
Well yes, i suppose in your brain they are. Thankfully, in the real world things are different. Good day to you.
You've taught me this lesson only several comments ago. My eternal gratitude for this impartment of zen-like wisdom.
Show me a Charlie Kirk in charge of a country and I'll show you Benito Mussolini.
You’re proving my point. Charlie was never in charge of a country, so you can’t possibly compare him to Mussolini.
Holy cognitive dissonance, Batman! That means there's nothing comparable? So, which one was the human, and which one was the golfball?
You can't compare hate-spewing fascists because they because they weren't the same RANK!
I'm honestly impressed; you've surpassed Mental Gymnastics and created Mental Parkour.
How many people did Brian Thompson directly execute? Do you also argue his hands were clean?
Great idea! All magats will be treated by doctors then
They’re equally as bad, yes.
Equally my ass