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[–] londos@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Can there be a challenge that actually does some maliciously useful compute? Like make their crawlers mine bitcoin or something.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 54 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Did you just say use the words "useful" and "bitcoin" in the same sentence? o_O

[–] polle@feddit.org 50 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The saddest part is, we thought crypto was the biggest waste of energy ever and then the LLMs entered the chat.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

At least LLMs produce something, even if it's slop, all crypto does is... What does crypto even do again?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

It gives people with already too much money a way to invest by gambling without actually helping society.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Crypto does drug sales and fraud!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago

It also makes it's fans poorer, which at least is funny, especially since they never learn

Blockchain m8 gg

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

ouch. I never made that comparison, but that is on point.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Bro couldn't even bring himself to mention protein folding because that's too socialist I guess.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

LLMs can't do protein folding. A specifically-trained Machine Learning model called AlphaFold did. Here's the paper.

Developing, training and fine tuning that model was a research effort led by two guys who got a Nobel for it. Alphafold can't do conversation or give you hummus recipes, it knows shit about the structure of human language but can identify patterns in the domain where it has been specifically and painstakingly trained.

It wasn't "hey chatGPT, show me how to fold a protein" is all I'm saying and the "superhuman reasoning capabilities" of current LLMs are still falling ridiculously short of much simpler problems.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

They can't bitcoin mine either, so technical feasibility wasn't the goal of my reply

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey dipshits:

The number of mouth-breathers who think every fucking "AI" is a fucking LLM is too damn high.

  • Every artificial intelligence is not a deep neural network algorithm.
  • Every deep neural network algorithm is not a generative adversarial network.
  • Every generative adversarial network is not a language model.
  • Every language model is not a large language model.

Fucking fart-sniffing twats.

$ ./end-rant.sh

[–] londos@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You're 100% right. I just grasped at the first example I could think of where the crawlers could do free work. Yours is much better. Left is best.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I went back and added "malicious" because I knew it wasn't useful in reality. I just wanted to express the AI crawlers doing free work. But you're right, bitcoin sucks.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair: it's a great tool for scamming people (think ransomware) :/

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

Is it? Don't you risk losing a rather large percentage of the value.

Just by cars or something as they are much better at keeping their value. Also if somebody asks where did you get all this money from you can just point to the car and say, I sold that.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Not without making real users also mine bitcoin/avoiding the site because their performance tanked.