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[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well, you have the basics like voter suppression in just about every way (e.g., gerrymandering, shutting down polling places, not enough voting machines, laws against helping people waiting in lines, preventing ex-cons from voting, etc.), actively intimidating voters at the polls, active misinformation (e.g., automated messages telling people the wrong dates for the election), etc.

Now, we know about one attempt to mess with the voting that was caught. They're looking to overturn those peoples' convictions.

I'm sure there is more that I'm leaving out. Now, that may not be what you were talking about, but that's rigged in my opinion. Also, the electoral college, the voting system (NPV or RCV would be better).

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering doesn't effect the presidential election (except for maybe suppressing turnout of people who may feel like they don't matter). I've seen far too many people who think it does.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sure. That's fair. It does impact the primary and everything else on the presidential election ticket, though, which are still very important to the situation we're in now. Congress is allowing everything Trump wants, basically, which could have been prevented if not for gerrymandering (for long periods of time).

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We lost because we didn't vote. End of story. All of this "fraud" non-sense is absolutely pathetic and just an excuse for the stubborn who didn't vote against Trump.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Not enough of us voted, certainly, but they have been slowly marginalizing and dividing us for decades. It's disingenuous to discount that as a major factor. While other countries have made voting day a holiday and bolstered the abilities and required voting, Republicans have worked against voters to create a specific outcome.

A walk is much harder when it's uphill and the wind is against you.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

There was no "vote against Trump". What you mean is "vote for Kamala Harris", but why don't you just say that? Maybe because you don't want to think about why Democrats wouldn't vote for her?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah it was lots of little things not just one thing.

Lots of things that they spent 4 years thinking up to do, and also how to keep hold.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was "a lot of little things" when Biden "stole" the election too....

So goddamn embarrassing.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

How do you mean?

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

A lot of them have been decades in the making. Horrible.