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I've seen so many cases of staunch progressive groups weaponize a guys sexuality as soon as they have a falling out with him. Its like these people never believed what they were saying. People are so spineless and have no morals.
With leftists and progressives the louder they are about their beliefs and virtues the less they actually follow those through. Just like with religious people, it’s just virtue signaling.
In my older age I've come to the realization that a lot of people join movements just to belong, not because they actually hold the conviction. I think in fact there are people who aren't capable of even having a conviction, just bouncing between whatever expressive habits are most convenient socially
You see it with things like politics and religion too
Its hard to be morally consistent. But not impossible.
Sadly, this is a human trait overall. It's deep in the lizard brain section from early in our evolution.
If someone is part of a group and then does something seen as against the interest of the group (or groupthink, really) then any tiny little thing can become a trait leveraged against them. Either the person on the outs basically accepts demotion on the social ladder and hopes for re-acceptance from the group as subservient to everyone, or they're just out for good. It's one of our worst traits from a rational perspective, it's violent and irrational monkey-brain shit, and likely made for small homogeneous, tight-knit groups that could count on each other to survive harsh environmental conditions.
My favourite is the ones who scream about slut shaming then use "virgin" as an insult.
Although that seems to have fallen out of fashion lately.
That specific insult I mean, not hypocrisy.
It's not out of fashion at all, "virgin" just became "incel". The intent is identical.
Not really. Incel implies a level of indoctrination into a misogynistic POV that has you convinced that you’re better off alone. It’s not the same as insulting someone for simply not having had sex yet.
edit: not that I think either is a productive thing to call another person
No one is thinking this deeply when they call a man who just said/did something they don't like an "incel". People just use it mindlessly as an insult, same as with "virgin".
I think people who haven't been been the target of insults since high school (or maybe ever?) forget how petty and uncreative it often is.
The point insulting someone isn't to be truthful, it's to be hurtful or put them down.
Maybe if they’re really young and weren’t on the internet when the word became popular, sure
who else call people virgin anyways?
Not at all. Incels are almost overwhelmingly misogynistic and into a lot of weird pseudo scientific shit. Incels are those claiming they deserve women but at the same time don't deserve them because they're too beta and all the rich alphas are getting 10 chicks a second, so they excuse their lack of success with dating in a lot of made up bullshit to delude themselves into never improving as people.
Incels are not just virgins, they're basically a cult, and thinking people use it just as 'virgin' is either deliberately obtuse or ignorant
I agree with everything you said, but also, there are absolutely people who just call weird guys incels regardless of whether or not it actually fits.
That's just what people say these days, even if it's inaccurate. They don't care, they just want to insult and trigger. Who is the ignorant?
I mean, fair enough, but also, we really shouldn't be making it even entertaining new definitions for words based on online ragebait.
People always say stuff to me like, “You definitely live with your parents”. That one is super common. Like, who cares? It’s weird for me personally because I moved out over 20 years ago, but nothing wrong if I did live with my folks. It’s a world as hard as stone out there.
Living with your parents while working = being rich speedrun