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Obama says Trump deepened US divide in rush to ‘identify enemy’ after Charlie Kirk shooting
(www.theguardian.com)
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Second half of the comment aside, dude did continue and expand drone strikes, which probably does make him eligible for "war criminal" status lol
I can't name a single US president who has not been eligible for "war criminal" status. Not that that makes what Obama did okay, just clarifying that his actions weren't uniquely egregious. If I were him, my defense would be that we were gonna engage in those strikes either way, but this way American lives were not on the line. In that case, expanding drone strikes could be painted as good in a lot of people's minds.
Maybe the best person to have ever been president was Carter, and he still continued to enable a genocide of East Timor by Indonesia.
William Henry Harrison was only president March 4, 1841 – April 4, 1841 (31 days). While he was a slave owner, he MIGHT not be a war criminal.
William Henry Harrison absolutely was a war criminal before he was president though. See: Tippecanoe
Lincoln only war crimed Indians a little bit he's got my vote as best of the bunch
I'm curious what your feelings are on the second half of that comment.
Putin is a shithead dictator would be the most kind thing I can say lol
I'm glad to see you can speak your mind on a remote community without fear of Dessalines coming by to slap you for wrongthink.
Lol in all honesty: never met anyone doing that on this instance. Not to say it never has happened, I just may have never been a big enough fish.
I've had run ins with both Dessalines and davel in the past.
Davel's good shit though most of the time.
They don't really seem to care what you do unless it's on their instance. There you will stay on the party line.
? I don't pay a lot of attention to mod logs. Doesn't that restored one mean they undid it?
It sure does but the removed part means they saw that and removed the comment to preserve Dr. Jill’s dignity before they realized they had no jurisdiction and restored it.