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I'm so glad this was your first line in the post
If not to editorialize, what else is the text box for? :)
No duh, says a layman who never wrote code in his life.
And many between "seniour developers everywhere" and "a layman who never wrote code in his life".
Like me, I'm saying it too. A big ol "No duh".
Disbelieve the hype.
Heh. That's a fun chart. If that's programming aptitude, I scored 80 on that part of the broad spectrum aptitude test I got a sneak-peek chance to do several parts of. Well now I know why I'm so easily in agreement with "senior coders", if it is programming aptitude quotient. If it's just iq, ... pulls hood up to block the glare.
Daunting that there may be a middling bias getting apparent advantages. Evolution may not serve us well like that.
Thing is both statements can be true.
Used appropriately and in the right context, LLMs can accelerate some select work.
But the hype level is 'human replacement is here (or imminent, depending on if the company thinks the audience is willing to believe yet or not)'. Recently Anthropic suggested someone could just type 'make a slack clone' and it'll all be done and perfect.
This. Like with any tool you have to learn how and when to use it. I've started to get the hang of what tasks it improves but I don't think I've regained the hours I've spent learning it yet.
But as the tool and my understanding of it improves it'll probably happen some day.
Oddly enough, my grasp of coding is probably the same as the guy in the middle but I still know that LLM generated code is garbage.
All the best garbage to learn from, to debug, debug, debug, sharpening those skills.
That's kinda wrong though. I've seen llm's write pretty good code, in some cases even doing something clever I hadn't thought of.
You should treat it as any junior though, and read the code changes and give feedback if needed.
Yeah, I actually considered putting the same text on all 3, but we gotta put the idiots that think it's great somewhere! Maybe I should have put it with the dumbest guy instead.
I guess I'm one of the idiots then, but what do I know. I've only been coding since the 90s
Think this one needs a bimodal curve with the two peaks representing the "caught up in the hype" average coder and the realistic average coder.
Agreed, that's why it didn't feel quite right when I made it.
Yeah, there’s definitely morons out there who never bothered to even read about the theory of good code design.