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"No Duh," say senior developers everywhere.

The article explains that vibe code often is close, but not quite, functional, requiring developers to go in and find where the problems are - resulting in a net slowdown of development rather than productivity gains.

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[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No duh, says a layman who never wrote code in his life.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 9 hours ago

And many between "seniour developers everywhere" and "a layman who never wrote code in his life".

Like me, I'm saying it too. A big ol "No duh".

Disbelieve the hype.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 hours ago

Heh. That's a fun chart. If that's programming aptitude, I scored 80 on that part of the broad spectrum aptitude test I got a sneak-peek chance to do several parts of. Well now I know why I'm so easily in agreement with "senior coders", if it is programming aptitude quotient. If it's just iq, ... pulls hood up to block the glare.

Daunting that there may be a middling bias getting apparent advantages. Evolution may not serve us well like that.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Thing is both statements can be true.

Used appropriately and in the right context, LLMs can accelerate some select work.

But the hype level is 'human replacement is here (or imminent, depending on if the company thinks the audience is willing to believe yet or not)'. Recently Anthropic suggested someone could just type 'make a slack clone' and it'll all be done and perfect.

[–] Mirror Giraffe@piefed.social 1 points 52 minutes ago

This. Like with any tool you have to learn how and when to use it. I've started to get the hang of what tasks it improves but I don't think I've regained the hours I've spent learning it yet.

But as the tool and my understanding of it improves it'll probably happen some day.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oddly enough, my grasp of coding is probably the same as the guy in the middle but I still know that LLM generated code is garbage.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 0 points 4 hours ago

That's kinda wrong though. I've seen llm's write pretty good code, in some cases even doing something clever I hadn't thought of.

You should treat it as any junior though, and read the code changes and give feedback if needed.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 9 hours ago

All the best garbage to learn from, to debug, debug, debug, sharpening those skills.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I actually considered putting the same text on all 3, but we gotta put the idiots that think it's great somewhere! Maybe I should have put it with the dumbest guy instead.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I guess I'm one of the idiots then, but what do I know. I've only been coding since the 90s

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Think this one needs a bimodal curve with the two peaks representing the "caught up in the hype" average coder and the realistic average coder.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Agreed, that's why it didn't feel quite right when I made it.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there’s definitely morons out there who never bothered to even read about the theory of good code design.