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Money quote:

Excel requires some skill to use (to the point where high-level Excel is a competitive sport), and AI is mostly an exercise in deskilling its users and humanity at large.

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[–] elvith@feddit.org 8 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

They foresaw that. That's because python on Excel doesn't run locally, but in the cloud and then returns the result to you: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/introduction-to-python-in-excel-55643c2e-ff56-4168-b1ce-9428c8308545

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's the worst possible solution to that problem. Why can't they just develop their own script that's Turing complete but doesn't have any system calls?

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Or just use Lua compiled without the system calls. This is done by many video games. İt's 2025, there is no need to create new domain specific languages.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Or use embedded Lisp, like all the cool kids.

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

That's even worse!

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Still sounds like you'd be shipping your data to the cloud, where it can be exfilled from there.

Would potentially be a great phishing tool, just need to trick someone into putting sensitive data into a precooked excel file, and it gets exfilled.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago

Currently only for business customers which probably use OneDrive or SharePoint anyways, so it's not that they need that to exfiltrate data. But for a phishing/hacking attempt? There are probably some nice possibilities.