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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36089101

The Office of Defects Investigation (“ODI”) has identified numerous incident reports submitted by Tesla, Inc. (“Tesla”) in response to Standing General Order 2021-01 (the “SGO”), in which the reported crashes occurred several months or more before the dates of the reports. The majority of these reports involved crashes in which the Standing General Order in place at the time required a report to be submitted within one or five days of Tesla receiving notice of the crash. When the reports were submitted, Tesla submitted them in one of two ways. Many of the reports were submitted as part of a single batch, while others were submitted on a rolling basis.  

Preliminary engagement between ODI and Tesla on the issue indicates that the timing of the reports was due to an issue with Tesla’s data collection, which, according to Tesla, has now been fixed. NHTSA is opening this Audit Query, a standard process for reviewing compliance with legal requirements, to evaluate the cause of the potential delays in reporting, the scope of any such delays, and the mitigations that Tesla has developed to address them. As part of this review, NHTSA will assess whether any reports of prior incidents remain outstanding and whether the reports that were submitted include all of the required and available data.

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think cars should communicate with each other as well with an open source, universal standard. Like real time data exchange that helps the self driving

[–] 123@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

We just need tucking trains and public transport in cities. Rural areas are under separate requirements. It's that easy, but we've built cities for failure for a while now. We "send our prayers" each time a kid biking to school is run over and then complain when the number of lanes on the freeway is not expanded to accommodate the ever increasing number of cars or speed limits don't allow for deadlier crashes because our commute from a poorly designed suburb to a poorly designed city increases by 5 minutes.

Edit: rant is not directed at you. Just frustrated with the US in general when looking at the needs of the general population.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 minutes ago

I don't disagree but I don't think it's remotely realistic at this point. Honestly, everything looks the bleakest it ever has in my lifetime and I don't really trust our society to accomplish any significant progress anytime soon. Trump is America's response to the entire earth ecosystem collapsing? In the meantime, I think it's remotely possible we can get cars to talk to each other so I can go to a bar without having to involve Uber. Maybe with dedicated towers like cell phone towers to help cover areas and the software can keep the amount of data that needs to be transferred to a minimum.

But yeah, public transit a step or 2 above buses would have been pretty ideal but our population is stupid as fuck and just accepts capitalism as the way things should be.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

That'll probably be the way it goes. That does of course mean banning other cars from the road and I'm not sure how that's going to be implemented.

I think there would be one very congested frequency band.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't like the idea of a single system. Over specialize and you breed in weakness.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

Single standard, but multiple implementations.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

The alternative is fragmentation.