A preachy and moralizing one where we protect the feelings of fascists from being hurt, where preserving "dignity" is more important than fighting back against the people literally killing us, one where legal adults are to be given leniency on their crimes (which again, include enabling countless deaths) due to their youth and status?

Yeah, I think I'm gonna give that society a pass. But feel free to go found the promised nation of Apologia-Land, I'm not about to be so crass as to force my own morality on you. You seem unpleasant enough I wouldn't take a baton round for you (go learn about how your really vague concept of "dignity" works in the real world) but man, I'm not above pointing out what a bootlickin' line of thinking you've go going on here. War is hell, dude, even culture ones. War reporting is the only way to actually confront people with that reality.

Nobody in this here thread thinks that it's good we got to this point, but this kind of thing is what's required to start getting us the hell out of here. It's deeply, deeply depressing your head is so far up your own morals that you can't even consider your position beyond the single "dignity" issue.

I know negative reactions make us entrench, but come on. How much of a stretch would it be, say, to push the narrative that you're just a fascist that's worried their clapped picture is gonna show up on here, being celebrated? I don't think that's what's happening, but it sure isn't a hard line to sell given how beautifully your zealously unyielding defense of the fascists lines up with how the fascists are defending themselves.