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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (6 children)

The problem: our desire for convenience

This hits it right on the money. As nice as open source and open standards are, at the end of the day none of that matters to the 99% that want/need to do X as fast and painlessly as possible.

To people like my wife MS Office/LibreOffice/Google Docs are all the same thing in the category of productivity suite. And one of those does not meet her where she lives in day to day life. And it doesn't because there is no money in doing so for LibreOffice. And there is no benefit to her to seek out LibreOffice for her uses.

Hell, just take a look around at the number of people that preach about the evils of Microsoft, Google, or whoever but love them an iPhone and Macbook. As bad as Microsoft and Google can be for screwing over the user with vendor lock-in they don't hold a candle to Apple. But they get the money despite there being "better" options technically and philosophically for nearly everything they make, but Apple knows all of that pales in importance to 99% of potential customers compared to being convenient.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

The piece on using the tech is a bit much. We cannot get by without a smartphone in modern life and they essentially do not exist outside of apple and google.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

The example actually proves the point more strongly than LibreOffice vs MS Office does by the increased level of effort it requires of the user to go out of their way to not actively support the bad things Apple and Google do.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

Effectively, for most people, they don't.

Most people make a new phone purchase impulsively when involved with negotiating a phone plan at a store or in a rush after they break their old phone and need a new one for life and work almost immediately, the cost benefit analysis for most people simply doesn't make sense unless they are naturally interested in tech as a hobby or it is related to their career (or are surrounded by friendly people who are).

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

afaik our digital identification system does not work well outside of iOS or Android (most of the time, not at all - since it breaks on updates and they update basically daily). so we're stuck with their duopoly. because digital id is mandatory.

Once upon a time they did support linux on desktop but then ubuntu went and decided to make a phone and linux support was mysteriously discontinued a week after.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 hour ago

our digital identification system

which one?

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