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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The piece on using the tech is a bit much. We cannot get by without a smartphone in modern life and they essentially do not exist outside of apple and google.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

The example actually proves the point more strongly than LibreOffice vs MS Office does by the increased level of effort it requires of the user to go out of their way to not actively support the bad things Apple and Google do.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

Effectively, for most people, they don't.

Most people make a new phone purchase impulsively when involved with negotiating a phone plan at a store or in a rush after they break their old phone and need a new one for life and work almost immediately, the cost benefit analysis for most people simply doesn't make sense unless they are naturally interested in tech as a hobby or it is related to their career (or are surrounded by friendly people who are).

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

afaik our digital identification system does not work well outside of iOS or Android (most of the time, not at all - since it breaks on updates and they update basically daily). so we're stuck with their duopoly. because digital id is mandatory.

Once upon a time they did support linux on desktop but then ubuntu went and decided to make a phone and linux support was mysteriously discontinued a week after.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 hour ago

our digital identification system

which one?