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There's no good option right now. There's no party that has any plans to do what Canada really needs. I don't see any representation anywhere.
I think Libs are trying to re-tool Canada to become more independent of the American economy and, tarrif lunacy, etc.
I think he’s right in his note that this won’t be easy. Gonna hurt a bit. In the long run we can walk on our own two feet again (drop your fucking pride here, America’s economy and our interdependence are waaaay bigger than just “fuck ‘em!” will allow). But, sacrifices (like rehab) to get there. Give Carney, AND THE SYSTEM, time. There is ZERO way to achieve Canada’s goals otherwise.
As for striking back at the US? There’s a balance here between existing trade, future trade, new markets, independence, and the crazy politics where Canada does NOT fall into the “Trump-trap” where he antagonizes, creates a backlash, then justifies his lunatic responses. …wanna be Venezuala? How about 51st state?
It’s delicate as Hell; complex as fuck; frought with political “loose-cannonry”, and despite what anyone thinks, the PMO can’t just ‘snap its fingers’ and ‘make it happen’ (certainly not without critisisms of Carney the Dictator-next to Trump, riiiight!). It’s gonna take time, and we literally just started.
Carney-hate boggles my mind right now. Moreover, he closer to old-school conservatives (ie pre-merger with The Reform Party - ie who they are now) than he is to Lib, imo.
Cons now are just pursuing what’s worked in the US. Critisism (nominal anyway), divisivness, and fear-mongering, all rile up those susceptible to demagoguery. It’s not about Canada, it’s just about wresting power away from others.
Can we just stay the fucking course for a year or two? New markets, value-chains, relationships all take time.
You're right its going to take time. Im waiting to see what the budget actually says but the fact that the Liberals are splitting the capital costs and operating costs into two different categories for the deficit is troubling. Then apparently things like corporate welfare are now going to be considered capital investments which count as a positive on the capital side? Hmm... this does sound like cooking the books to make a horrible deficit look not so horrible.
Im just not sure I trust their motivation as the Liberals, for the last 15 years, seem to be very good at spending more than they take in and now they're going even deeper with the same strategy and saying 'just trust us'. I dont think I do. We're already so far in the hole and where's the good news from the last 15 years?