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[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

fake news… btw, radiohead isn’t nearly as big as they were back in the free tibet days, boomer….
https://pitchfork.com/news/radiohead-thom-yorke-releases-statement-on-israel-and-gaza/

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)
[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 14 points 10 hours ago

The statement is basically 'we oppose Netanyahu, but we are fine with the Lebensraum genocide in general'.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I recognize that this probably qualifies as "picking holes" as he said, but his questioning of Hamas seems to be more of a rhetorical device than a sincere request for information. It's not like things had been good in Palestine before the October 7 attack, so questioning why they did it sort of implies that it was out of the blue and not in response to decades of failed attempts to peacefully end settlement expansion and violence against Palestinians. And while acknowledging the horrors that Israel is raining down on them, is it not obvious why Hamas would still have hostages? The hostages are their only bargaining chip, and without the hostages, Palestine would've already been wiped off the map.

I've been a Radiohead fan for a long time, and I'll continue to be, but this was an unexpectedly neoliberal take to criticize both sides and yearn for going back to how things used to be, completely ignoring that how things used to be is how we got here. That's how time works.

I think of this quote from JFK pretty often, and it just refuses to stop being relevant, and apparently more people need to hear it. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." That's the reason for the attack. The reason for having hostages is "to cling onto hope for survival against an otherwise guaranteed complete genocide." They're holding on and hoping that the world that is watching actually does something to help them, and we just aren't.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They both sides it.

I think Netanyahu and his crew of extremists are totally out of control and need to be stopped, and that the international community should put all the pressure it can on them to cease. Their excuse of self-defence has long since worn thin and has been replaced by a transparent desire to take control of Gaza and the West Bank permanently.

I believe this ultra-nationalist administration has hidden itself behind a terrified & grieving people and used them to deflect any criticism, using that fear and grief to further their ultra-nationalist agenda with terrible consequences, as we see now with the horrific blockade of aid to Gaza.

While our lives tick along as normal these endless thousands of innocent human souls are still being expelled from the earth… for what?

At the same time the unquestioning Free Palestine refrain that surrounds us all does not answer the simple question of why the hostages have still not all been returned? For what possible reason?

Why did Hamas choose the truly horrific acts of October 7th? The answer seems obvious, and I believe Hamas chooses too to hide behind the suffering of its people, in an equally cynical fashion for their own purposes.

I also think there is a further and extremely important point to make.

Social media witch-hunts (nothing new) on either side pressurizing artists and whoever they feel like that week to make statements etc do very little except heighten tension, fear and over-simplification of what are complex problems that merit proper face to face debate by people who genuinely wish the killing to stop and an understanding to be found.

This kind of deliberate polarization does not serve our fellow human beings and perpetuates a constant ‘us and them’ mentality. It destroys hope and maintains a sense of isolation, the very things that extremists use to maintain their position. We facilitate their hiding in plain sight if we assume that the extremists and the people they claim to represent are one and the same, indivisible.

If our world is ever able to move on from these dark times and find peace it will only be when we rediscover what we share in common, and the extremists are sent back to sit in the darkness from whence they came.

I sympathize completely with the desire to ‘do something’ when we are witnessing such horrific suffering on our devices every day. It completely makes sense. But I now think it is a dangerous illusion to believe reposting, or one or two line messages are meaningful, especially if it is to condemn your fellow human beings. There are unintended consequences.

It is shouting from the darkness. It is not looking people in the eye when you speak. It is making dangerous assumptions. It is not debate and it is not critical thinking.

Importantly, it is open to online manipulation of all kinds, both mechanistic and political.