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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 16 hours ago (50 children)

The PRC is leaps and bounds better than the US, and it isn't close. Further, socialism isn't when "no exports," lol.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 19 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (9 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 16 hours ago (8 children)
[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Also something about western Marxism and Christianity

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Spot-on! The only socialism acceptable to the standard western viewpoint is a vow of poverty and self-sacrifice.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If China is comminist then why hasn't it been overthrown by the CIA? Chechmate tankie smuglord

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jorge@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The article above is from Brazilian 35 years old marxist-leninist comrade Jones Manoel. He is a tall black man from a slum in the state of Pernambuco. The cop who killed his father worked (security guard) in Jones' school. He had to see that cop daily. Did not tell his mom, to avoid worrying a solo mother who worked like a horse to feed her children.

Jones graduated in History, then got a MsC and is now getting a PhD.

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Jones_Manoel

He recently debated much older Breno Altman, a brilliant communist journalist and member of the Workers Party. Breno, a secular Jew from an influential anti-zionist family, is a major and fierce critic of Zionism. He is under fierce attack by the Zionist lobby. He has been to Israel, and an Israeli politician (a rare humane one) warned him it wouldn't be "convenient" for him to try visiting Israel again. Breno was also convicted in Brazil (facing possible jail time) for accusing a zionist of being "coward".

Breno is a rare Brazilian communist who still supports Lula's government. Breno maintains the current government has an internal dispute between social-liberalism and social-developmentalism. Jones maintains the goverment is just neoliberal. Great debate!

Governo Lula é neoliberal? Breno Altman x Jones Manoel - Debate especial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqPhJnShKWA

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for the write-up and video! I'll have to watch it later.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If China failed US "leftists" would praise Mao every day

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago

Some claim China failed, and specifically say it's because the Cultural Revolution was good, but ultimately lost out. Support for non-western, existing socialism is a bit of a litmus test for socialists.

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