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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (23 children)

I’d prefer an AMD 9000 series because I refuse to support Nvidia, but the upgradability is still an amazing achievement. I’m glad to see Framework delivering.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Out of curiosity, why do you refuse to support Nvidia? AMD isn't some saint, they're a shitty corporation just like Nvidia. They got lucky when Jim Keller saved their asses with the Ryzen architecture in the mid-2010s. They haven't really innovated a god damn thing since then and it shows.

Edit: I get it, I get it, Nvidia is a much shittier company and I agree. I was pretty drunk last night before bed, please pardon the shots fired

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Besides what was mentioned below, it's not about making competitive products but about Nvidia being an absolute asshole since the 2000s and they got even worse ever since the crypto and AI craze started. AMD and Nvidia are both corporations but they are not even playing the same game when it comes to being anti-competitive.

There's a reason why Wikipedia has a controversies section on Nvidia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia#Controversies

That list is far from exhaustive. There's so much more about Nvidia that you should remember vividly if you were a PC gamer in the 2000s and 2010s with an AMD GPU, like:

  • When they pushed developers to use an unecessary amount of tesselation because they knew tesselation performed worse on AMD
  • When they pushed their Gameworks framework which heavily gimped AMD GPUs
  • When they pushed their PhysX framework which automatically offloaded to CPU on AMD GPUs
  • When they disabled their GPUs in their driver when they detected an AMD GPU is also present in the system
  • When they were cheating in benchmarks by adding optimizations specific to those benchmarks
  • When they shipped an incomplete Vulkan implementation but claimed they are compliant

Nvidia has been gimping gaming performance and visuals since forever for both AMD GPUs and even their own customers and we haven't even gotten to DLSS and raytracing yet.

I refuse to buy anything Nvidia until they stop abusing their market position at every chance they get.

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