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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Microsoft made some database software called DocumentDB (which utilizes a kind of database called NoSQL) that the Linux Foundation is now accepting into their list of projects they support. This was done because, unlike others like MongoDB, this one called DocumentDB was released under a license that people can use without certain restrictions that MongoDB put inside their license.

The core issue is that big tech companies regularly take software developed by open source devs and then use it for their big money machines without giving anything back to the original developers. MongoDB was fed up with this and started using a license that forces companies to publicize the code of the projects they use MongoDB for. Big Tech doesnt like that, because they really like money and not sharing how they make that money.

"Today, the market has spoken," Farkas wrote on Tuesday. "The Linux Foundation has announced the adoption of the DocumentDB project to create an open standard with MongoDB compatibility, the exact thing we were sued for earlier this year."

So now they have a software suite that people can use to replace their MongoDB systems.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But MongoDB had an AGPL license. Why did they decide to change to a more restrictive one?

[–] ncrav@lemmings.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

MongoDB was never about open source but about making money. 10+ years ago they were trying to market their JSON store as capable of anything when it could not even handle objects larger than 64 MB: yeah I know you use collections not nesting but try to aggregate complex data without constantly working around that limit.

The fact that it still exists when there are alternatives that are faster and more efficient amazes me.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

According to the company: https://www.mongodb.com/company/newsroom/press-releases/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server

Unfortunately, once an open source project becomes interesting, it is too easy for cloud vendors who have not developed the software to capture all of the value while contributing little back to the community

They are totally morally correct imo, but reality simply doesnt work like that. If you disallow free use of your software for commercial purposes, it will simply die. They also just spent a bit too much money on a single project from what it look like.

“We have invested approximately $300M in R&D over the past decade to offer a modern, general purpose, open source database for everyone. With the added protection of the SSPL, we can continue to invest in R&D and further drive innovation and value for the community.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MongoDB

MongoDB has been removed from the Debian, Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux distributions because of the licensing change. Fedora determined that the SSPL version 1 is not a free software license because it is "intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory" towards commercial users.