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[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's not, you're just personally insulted. The livestock industry is responsible for about 15% of human caused greenhouse gas emissions. That's not negligible.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So, I can't complain about any part of the remaining 85% if I'm not vegan? That's so fucking stupid. Do you not complain about microplastics because you're guilty of using devices with plastic in them to type your message?

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, I'm a piece of shit for using a phone made by a capitalist corporation and contributes to harming the planet. I don't deny that I live in a horrible society that forces me to be a bad human just to survive.

I also don't call people stupid for telling me my device is bad for the environment. I still eat meat, I'm not a vegan, but I understand and completely agree that it's terrible for the environment. By recognizing it, I can be conscious of my consumption and reduce it.

I also use LLMs conservatively, I use them where they add value and I don't use them frivolously to generate shitty AI slop.

I'm conscious of its dangers and that drives my consumption of it.

But I don't pick and choose. I don't eat animal products three meals a day and bitch about someone using an LLM to edit a file instead of manually working on it for five hours.

Just be consistent is the message they were communicating, not that you shouldn't complain about 85%.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Same, I'm very aware that my selfish actions cause harm to the environment and I do try to be conservative about meat, electricity, and water usage. I don't even own a car.

But "I swear to God, if you aren't vegan," which is what OP said, is hardly the same as "keep it consistent." It feels like they're telling us both that our efforts are pointless because we aren't vegan. They could have said, try cutting meat from your diet to help more, or give veganism a thought. It comes off as insufferably arrogant, you know?

I'll end my rant now, haha. Sorry.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

They were trying to be funny, don't be too literal.

I think (that's how I interrupted it, I don't know) the intent was to reflect the insufferably arrogant tone of most people who exclusively complain about AI as if it has no benefits and will be the sole destroyer of our society.

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