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Former White House aide Sarah Hurwitz, who served as a senior speechwriter for President Barack Obama, warned this week that Holocaust education was “confusing” young people into sympathizing with “weak, skinny Palestinians” instead of “powerful Israelis.”

She continued:

"You have TikTok just smashing our young people’s brains all day long with video of carnage in Gaza, and this is why so many of us can’t have a sane conversation with younger Jews, because anything that we try to say to them, they’re hearing it through this wall of carnage. So I want to give data and information and facts and arguments, and they’re just seeing in their minds carnage, and I sound obscene."

And you know, I think, unfortunately, the very smart bet that we made on Holocaust education to serve as anti-Semitism education, in this new media environment, I think that is beginning to break down a little bit because, you know, Holocaust education is absolutely essential, but I think it may be confusing some of our young people about anti-Semitism, because they learn about big, strong Nazis hurting weak, emaciated Jews and then they think, “Oh, anti-Semitism is like anti-black racism, right? Powerful white people against powerless black people.” So, when on TikTok all day long they see powerful Israelis hurting weak, skinny Palestinians, it’s not surprising that they think, “Oh I know, the lesson of the Holocaust is you fight Israel. You fight the big powerful people hurting the weak people.”

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[–] pyria@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I think she's over-complicating this.

What should happen, is educating the young Jews about the wrongs of what their country is doing to the Palestinians. What Israel is doing now, is similar in vein to what the Nazis did to them many decades ago and using the same template of an excuse to do it, like the US did with Iraq back in 2003. So we have two major wrong-doings of history coming into play and what the young Jews need to do, is overwhelmingly oppose their government and their leaders that are enabling this.

There, straightened it out for you and yet you were a speech-writer?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

like the US did with Iraq back in 2003

No. I'm not excusing anything that did happen there, but it absolutely wasn't a genocide.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The Iraq invasion from the start focussed on destroying all Iraqi infrastructure and creating as many civilian casualties as possible to destabilize the country. It was 100% a genocide. But since the US has the Hague Invasion Act they will never be charged for it.

[–] pyria@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That wasn't the problem.

The problem was, when 9/11 happened, the USA's clear-cut goal was to find Osama Bin Laden, who was the perpetrator of the 9/11 attack. 2 years later, didn't find Osama, but we wound up in Iraq suddenly because President Bush and his administration had a discourse based on lies that excused them to go to war in Iraq. During that entire administration's time, Osama was never found or caught until 2011 by Obama's administration.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

but we wound up in Iraq suddenly because President Bush and his administration had a discourse based on lies that excused them to go to war in Iraq.

Yes totally not a completely pre-planned invasion with the goal to destroy and destabilize Iraq, which conveniently Israel lobbied for for many years. Well at least 9/11 wasn't an inside job and Saudi Arabian leaders were held to account.

[–] pyria@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah whatever. You're still full of it.

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