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the first guy to make bread must've been an utter psycho
Agricultural society and its consequences…
i guess what you mostly need to make bread is the insight that grains taste better when they're refined to a fine powder, which you could figure out by accident.
Not as much as the one who saw a cow and went, I'm having some of that. Then I'm going to leave the milk to go hard and put it on my bread.
It's olives for me. Raw, fresh olives are absolutely disgusting. Insanely bitter. Straight up inedible until it's essentially pickled, which is what we actually eat. Crazy that someone ate that shit off the branch and went "I can fix this" instead of just writing the entire tree off as junk.
That's how basically all our fruits started. Do you think some ancient person just stumbled across a watermelon one day? Fuck no. They found something as disgusting as olives, decided it was good enough, then hundreds of years of selective breeding happened.
Have you ever seen a wild banana? It's bullshit. You'd peel it open and that's what you'd say: "This is bullshit."
Meanwhile olives have been cultivated for olive oil for thousands of years, so that's probably why people kept growing them in their bitter form.
Nah, olives are different. Most of our fruit are descendants of wild fruit that are bland, tasteless, poorly textured at worst. Stuff that'd make you say "meh I don't care for this", not "I'd rather taste my own vomit".
what you wildly underestimate is people's time back then. they often had jack-shit to do for prolonged periods of time, and people are willing to mess around with things quite a lot, especially food-related
Have you ever been starving before, by any chance?
meat has been eaten long before humans existed. iirc butter and cheese were developed by human's efforts to preserve food long-time (for the winter). people knew that a high water content makes all kind of food spoil faster (that much is pretty obvious if you spend some time actually observing things), so the straightforward consequence is to try and remove the water from the milk, and that's basically how you end up with cheese and butter.
Given the time period in which that happened that person was probably starving and out of other options.
I always wonder how many people ate pufferfish sushi and died before getting it right. Like why would you even try again?
Not all parts of a pufferfish are poisonous, right? So I guess some made it and some didn't and people eventually figured out why. Also I heard a little bit of the poison makes you high.
A loaf of milk is probably my favourite snack.
that was a reference to that joke tbh, nothing too crazy about cooking grain
People probably had been eating cooked grains for a while at that point, so the main difference would have been that one person crushed the grains and found out that as dough it is easier to keep together than as individual grains.
Yes, to me there seems to be a natural progression to bread. Wild grains, dried grains, crushed grains, dough, wild yeast falls on the still wet dough, campfire bread.
Better an utter psycho tha an udder psycho. The guy who found out that cows give milk was never the same again.