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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 234 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"AI vegans" is a pretty stupid thing to call them, though.

[–] mech@feddit.org 217 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The label isn't accidental.
It's designed to frame this as a fringe movement, and AI use as "normal".

“Gambling vegans are turning against giving their paycheck to casinos.”

[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also kind of frames vegan as bad at the same time...

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Better call them meat luddites ;-) ?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meat luddites sounds like a grunge folk band from Victorville California.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

No way! Meat luddites is my lesbian slurpcore band!

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

That works for vegetarians but not vegans. No wonder it's confusing considering the similar naming.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

It's a bad label that.

Taking two words and just ramming them together, instead of using the plethora of words are our disposal, doesn't really work in English and probably translates poorly to other languages. All of a sudden, vegan doesn't mean vegan anymore. Dictionaries and thesauruses exist. There are thousands of people who have degrees in English, in writing, in journalism. We don't need to reduce the English language to clickbait words. Because "AI" and "vegan" sound like SEO terms.

At best, if someone hears that, they're going to think, "What, they don't like AI-generated cows?". They'll write it off as stupid. And then you have folks that just see the word vegan, and then they're just done listening. It muddies both terms. And in both cases, it'll largely be viewed as a fringe trend that people who spend too much time online are doing, and it'll likely die off as trends do.

It becomes less a movement/stance/voice, and more "that thing kids put on their social media for a few months because they were all about it for that one summer". It's like if someone said "I'm a racist vegan"... Has a lot less punch than "fuck racism"

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why? both are against a horrible industry that 99% of people can avoid but don't.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

https://allthatsinteresting.com/discrimination-against-vegans

A shockingly high number of people have a negative view of vegans. And, separately but relatedly, veganism is (unfairly) associated with the far left in the United States. So a lot of conservative and moderate readers will see the word "vegan" and automatically think "this must be irrational leftist bullshit".

Even to some meat-eating liberals and leftists, "AI vegan" will read as "arrogant moral scolds who want to take away your chatbots and think they're better than you because they don't use AI."

I can't tell from the article whether "AI vegan" is a term people are calling themselves or something the media made up. But when mainstream media compares a movement to animal rights or veganism, it's almost never meant to be a positive.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do gooder derogation. Someone does something good and then you feel bad about yourself. Then instead of trying to self improve, you lash out.

Big sad sack of shit maneuver, really.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

Spot on. In German we have a cringe word that is used as a derogative by the far right. It is "Gutmensch" and literally translated means "good human", essentially meaning a person that applies ethics to her actions. How dare they not to be controlled by greed and hate!